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  • translate: beauty will save the world

    (Edit: I didn't see Tamas's reply, that basically just the same again)

    I would say vanie rehtauva i Ilu is quite close already, but I don't think Ilu needs an article i, e. g. Ilu vanya "the world is fair".

    The future of most verbs ending in a is indeed formed by dropping it: fara- "to hunt" -> faruva "will hunt". There is however another class of verbs, the tā- & yā-causatives (e. g. TUL- "come" -> tulta- "make come = send" ), where the a of the verb stays in the future: tulta- -> tultauva (where the syllable -tau- rhymes with English "cow"). Unfortunately we don't know which of these classes rehta- belongs to.

    In Tengwar it would look like vanie rehtauva ilu / vanie rehtuva ilu. The correct spelling of rehtauva is indeed rehtauva with au, it seems like it breaks the system, but with diphthongs like au the vowel order is reversed.


  • Account “Ambarkas”

    I wouldn't say it's absolutely impossible, but I don't think it's the most likely. From Primitive Elvish oro-pherya, I would expect the Sindarin name to develop to Erphair (with final vowel loss and i-affection/intrusion), which is not particularly close to Oropher, so I think that the explanation orod + fêr is still more better.


  • Gorbelgod

    You are completely right, it probably was a typo. I've pointed it out to Paul Strack and it will be corrected in the next release of Eldamo. I can't say when this revision will reach Parf Edhellen though.

    Gilruin


  • Phrase in English into elvish runes please

    I would suggest enta lúme < enta “another, one more” + lúme “time, period of time, hour”, which would be written as enta lúme in Tengwar (click the link for more font choices, but don't change the other settings. Both the first and second line are acceptable spellings)


  • Gloss “mára”

    haminyes mára means "I judge it (to be) good":

    • ham- "to judge" (though Tolkien rejected ham- in favor of nav-). Hami-* is the aorist stem, roughly comparable to the simple present.
    • -nye is the subject suffix for "I"
    • -s is the subject suffix for "it"

    There is a similar sentence directly attested from Tolkien: la navin caritalyas mára “I do not advise you to do so, (lit.) I don’t judge your doing it good”


  • "an Elven hymn to Elbereth Gilthoniel" Into quenya

    Exactly, my point was just to quickly mention the examples that show that it's unclear.


  • "an Elven hymn to Elbereth Gilthoniel" Into quenya

    As for rembine aldaron, I remember that there was still debate about whether the genitive and instrumental count among the cases which lack plural agreement of preceding adjectives.

    linta ciryalion/ciryalíva vs quenderinwa koainen >> quenderinwe koaron for the genitive, MQ. laurëa esselínen >> ancalim’ esselínen for the instrumental.


  • "an Elven hymn to Elbereth Gilthoniel" Into quenya

    You are completely right about rembine >> rembina, I usually remember it with the adverbial cases but otherwise it often slips off my mind as well.

    There have been new publications after both Helge and Thorsten published their courses (for example about those pronominal suffixes). If you like Helge's style, I would suggest to take a look at eldamo.org which has grammar articles to all important topics that are current with the published sources.

    Regarding making it a contribution, I'll ask for a couple of other opinions