Poldórëa

valiant

Poldórëa adj. "Valiant"; as title of Tulkas replaced by Astaldo (POL/POLOD, MR:146, 149. In GL:64, poldórëa is glossed "mighty", in QL:75, "muscular".)

astaldo

masculine name. Valiant

The sobriquet of Tulkas (S/28), a masculinized form of the adjective astalda “strong” (PE17/115).

Conceptual Development: In the earliest Lost Tales, the sobriquet of Tulkas was ᴱQ. Poldórea (LT1/79), which was the adjective ᴱQ. poldórea “muscular” used as a name (QL/75). The name ᴹQ. Poldórea still appeared in Silmarillion drafts from the 1930s, variously glossed “Strong One” or “Valiant” (SM/79, LR/206). It appeared in The Etymologies as an adjectival form of ᴹQ. poldore “physical strength; might” from the root ᴹ√POL(OD) “physically strong” (Ety/POL).

In later writings, the name Q. Poldórëa appeared in Tolkien’s Words, Phrases and Passages from the Lord of the Rings from the 1950s, along with variants Poldor and Poldorno, where he considered a new meaning for this name as “breaker up of the hard/tough” with its second element coming from the root √DOR “hard” (PE17/181). Ultimately, though the name was changed to Astaldo in Silmarillion revisions from the 1950s-60s (MR/149).

Elements

Word	Gloss
astalda	“strong, *valiant”

astalda

adjective. strong, *valiant

An adjective glossed “strong” and derived from the root √STAL in a page of notes having to do with “large & small” words, probably from the late 1960s (PE17/115). This page was rejected, but Tolkien used Astaldo “Valiant” as a sobriquet of Tulkas in later versions of The Silmarillion. As such, I would assume [ᴺQ.] astalda is valid for purposes of Neo-Quenya, but I would use it with the meaning “✱valiant” rather than “strong”.

Derivations

• √STAL “strong” ✧ PE17/115

Element in

• Q. Astaldo “Valiant”

Phonetic Developments

Development	Stages	Sources
√STAL > astalda	[astalda]	✧ PE17/115

poldórëa

masculine name. Valiant; Breaker up of the Hard/Tough

Changes

• Poldórëa → Astaldo ✧ MR/149
• Poldórëa → Astaldo ✧ MRI/Astaldo
• Poldórëa → Astaldo “Valiant” ✧ MRI/Poldórëa

Variations

• Poldórea ✧ MR/146; PE17/181
• Poldor ✧ PE17/181
• Poldorno ✧ PE17/181

poldorë

strong, burly

poldorë noun? (not glossed, derived from polda "strong, burly": possibly "strength" as an abstract) (POL/POLOD)

Turcafinwë

strong, powerful (in body) finwë

Turcafinwë masc. name, "strong, powerful (in body) Finwë", masc. name; he was called Celegorm in Sindarin. Short Quenya name Turco. (PM:352), compare #turco "chief" (q.v.)

astalda

adjective. *valiant; strong

talya

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

Cognates

• N. thala “stalwart, steady, firm, stalwart, steady, firm, [ᴱN.] hardy, valiant, bold”

thalion

strong

thalion (steadfast, dauntless), pl. thelyn. Also used as a noun ”hero, dauntless man”.

thalion

strong

(steadfast, dauntless), pl. thelyn. Also used as a noun ”hero, dauntless man”.

thala

stalwart

1) thala (steady, firm), pl. ?theili; 2) tolog (lenited dolog; pl. telyg for archaic tölyg) (trusty)

thala

stalwart

(steady, firm), pl. ?theili

tolog

stalwart

(lenited dolog; pl. telyg for archaic tölyg) (trusty)

bell

strong

1) (in body) *bell, lenited vell, pl. bill. Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” belt. 2)

bell

strong

lenited vell, pl. bill. Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” belt.

stal

root. strong

The unglossed root ᴹ√STALAG appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s with derivatives like N. thala “stalwart, steady, firm” and N. thalion “hero, dauntless man” (Ety/STÁLAG), the latter a sobriquet of Húrin typically translated as “Steadfast” in the narratives themselves (S/199). Similar forms appeared in Early Noldorin Word-lists from the 1920s derived from the primitive form ᴱ✶stalga (PE13/153).

The root √STAL “strong” was mentioned in passing as the basis for the adjective Q. astalda in a rejected page associated with roots having to do with “large & small” words, probably from the late 1960s (PE17/115; VT47/26 note #26). The name Q. Astaldo “Valiant” appeared as a sobriquet of Tulkas in later versions of The Silmarillion (S/28), replacing the earlier name Q. Poldórëa of similar meaning (MR/146, 149; LR/206). For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I would assume √STAL (and its derivatives) means “✱valiant” rather than “strong”.

Derivatives

• ᴺQ. astal “valour”
• Q. astalda “strong, *valiant” ✧ PE17/115

Element in

• ᴺS. thalas “valour, courage”

stal

root. *valiant

thala

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

thala

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm, stalwart, steady, firm, [ᴱN.] hardy, valiant, bold

Cognates

• ᴺQ. talya “stalwart, steady, firm”
• ᴹT. stalga “stalwart, steady, firm” ✧ Ety/STÁLAG

Derivations

• On. sthalga “stalwart, steady, firm” ✧ Ety/STÁLAG
  • ᴹ✶stalga “stalwart, steady, firm” ✧ Ety/STÁLAG
  • ᴹ√STALAG “*stalwart, steady, firm” ✧ Ety/STÁLAG

Phonetic Developments

Development	Stages	Sources
On. sthalga > thala	[sθalga] > [θalga] > [θalɣa] > [θalɣ] > [θala]	✧ Ety/STÁLAG

belt

adjective. strong in body

tolog

adjective. stalwart, trusty