Primitive elvish

stal

root. strong

The unglossed root ᴹ√STALAG appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s with derivatives like N. thala “stalwart, steady, firm” and N. thalion “hero, dauntless man” (Ety/STÁLAG), the latter a sobriquet of Húrin typically translated as “Steadfast” in the narratives themselves (S/199). Similar forms appeared in Early Noldorin Word-lists from the 1920s derived from the primitive form ᴱ✶stalga (PE13/153).

The root √STAL “strong” was mentioned in passing as the basis for the adjective Q. astalda in a rejected page associated with roots having to do with “large & small” words, probably from the late 1960s (PE17/115; VT47/26 note #26). The name Q. Astaldo “Valiant” appeared as a sobriquet of Tulkas in later versions of The Silmarillion (S/28), replacing the earlier name Q. Poldórëa of similar meaning (MR/146, 149; LR/206). For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I would assume √STAL (and its derivatives) means “✱valiant” rather than “strong”.

Primitive elvish [PE17/115; PE17/185] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stal

root. *valiant

thirip

root. stalk

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Noldorin 

thala

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm, stalwart, steady, firm, [ᴱN.] hardy, valiant, bold

Noldorin [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

thala

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

Noldorin [Ety/388] Group: SINDICT. Published by

tolog

adjective. stalwart, trusty

Noldorin [Ety/395] Group: SINDICT. Published by

tolog

adjective. stalwart, trusty

Noldorin [Ety/TULUK] Group: Eldamo. Published by

telch

noun. stem

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “stem” under the root ᴹ√TELEK “stalk, stem, leg” (Ety/TÉLEK). Its Quenya cognate Q. telco “stem, leg” continued to appear in Tolkien’s later writings (PE17/122; LotR/1118).

Neo-Sindarin: Conceivably this word might also mean “leg” like its Quenya cognate. However, I recommend using this word only for its attested gloss “stem” and suggest ᴺS. teleg for “leg”; see that entry for details.

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thalion

noun. hero, dauntless man

Noldorin [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

callon

noun. hero

afarch

adjective. very dry, arid

Noldorin [VT/45:5, X/PH] a- (intensive prefix) + parch, *apparkâ, ON appʰarkʰa. Group: SINDICT. Published by

baradh

adjective. steep

Noldorin [Ety/351] Group: SINDICT. Published by

baradh

adjective. steep

Noldorin [Ety/BARÁD] Group: Eldamo. Published by

belt

adjective. strong in body

Noldorin [Ety/352, Tengwestie/20031207] Group: SINDICT. Published by

callon

noun. hero

Noldorin [Ety/362] Group: SINDICT. Published by

parch

adjective. dry

Noldorin [Ety/380, VT/45:5] Group: SINDICT. Published by

parch

adjective. dry

Noldorin [Ety/PÁRAK; EtyAC/A] Group: Eldamo. Published by

telch

noun. stem

Noldorin [Ety/391] Group: SINDICT. Published by

thalion

noun. hero, dauntless man (especially as surname of Húrin Thalion)

Noldorin [Ety/388, S/438] Group: SINDICT. Published by

thalion

masculine name. hero, dauntless man

Noldorin [Ety/STÁLAG; WRI/Thalion] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Quenya 

sirpë

stem, stalk

sirpë noun "stem, stalk" (QL:84)

ambalasar

noun. stalagmite, (lit.) up-growing stone

A neologism for “stalagmite” coined by Luinyelle in a 2022 Discord discussion of words for stones, a combination of amba “up”, ala- “grow”, and sar (sarn-) “stone”.

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undalasar

noun. stalactite, (lit.) down-growing stone

A neologism for “stalactite” coined by Luinyelle in a 2022 Discord discussion of words for stones, a combination of undu “down”, ala- “grow”, and sar (sarn-) “stone”.

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sirpë

noun. stalk, slender tube, stem

talya

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

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salyon(do)

noun. hero, dauntless man

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Turcafinwë

strong, powerful (in body) finwë

Turcafinwë masc. name, "strong, powerful (in body) Finwë", masc. name; he was called Celegorm in Sindarin. Short Quenya name Turco. (PM:352), compare #turco "chief" (q.v.)

aiqua

steep

aiqua("q")adj. "steep" (AYAK). Not to be confused with the pronoun *aiqua "if anything, whatever" that post-Tolkien writers have extrapolated from aiquen (q.v.) on the basis of such pairs as ilquen vs. ilqua (q.v.)

oronta

steep

oronta adj. "steep" (LT1:256)

parca

dry

parca (1) ("k")adj. "dry" (PÁRAK)

poldorë

strong, burly

poldorë noun? (not glossed, derived from polda "strong, burly": possibly "strength" as an abstract) (POL/POLOD)

telco

stem

telco noun "stem" of a Tengwa symbol (Appendix E). The Etymologies gives telco ("k") pl. telqui ("q") "leg" (the pl. form is said to be analogical) (TÉLEK). It seems, then, that the word can refer to a "stem" or "leg" in general as well as the stem of a Tengwa. In the pre-classical Tengwar system presupposed in the Etymologies, telco is used to refer to a carrier symbol (VT46:18, 33)

Sindarin 

thrimp

noun. stalk

thala

stalwart

1) thala (steady, firm), pl. ?theili; 2) tolog (lenited dolog; pl. telyg for archaic tölyg) (trusty)

thala

stalwart

(steady, firm), pl. ?theili

tolog

stalwart

(lenited dolog; pl. telyg for archaic tölyg) (trusty)

apharch

adjective. very dry, arid

Sindarin [VT/45:5, X/PH] a- (intensive prefix) + parch, *apparkâ, ON appʰarkʰa. Group: SINDICT. Published by

thalion

noun. hero, dauntless man (especially as surname of Húrin Thalion)

Sindarin [Ety/388, S/438] Group: SINDICT. Published by

apharch

very dry

(pl. epherch) (VT45:5, 36)

baradh

steep

baradh (pl. beraidh, lenited varadh).

baradh

steep

(pl. beraidh, lenited varadh).

bell

strong

1) (in body) *bell, lenited vell, pl. bill. Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” belt. 2)

bell

strong

lenited vell, pl. bill. Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” belt.

callon

hero

1) callon (i gallon, o challon), pl. cellyn (i chellyn), coll. pl. callonnath; 2) thalion (dauntless man), pl. thelyn. Also used as an adj. ”dauntless, steadfast, strong”.

callon

hero

(i gallon, o challon), pl. cellyn (i chellyn), coll. pl. callonnath

parch

dry

parch (lenited barch; pl. perch);

parch

dry

(lenited barch; pl. perch);

telch

stem

telch (i delch, o thelch), pl. tilch (i thilch)

telch

stem

(i delch, o thelch), pl. tilch (i thilch)

thalion

strong

thalion (steadfast, dauntless), pl. thelyn. Also used as a noun ”hero, dauntless man”.

thalion

strong

(steadfast, dauntless), pl. thelyn. Also used as a noun ”hero, dauntless man”.

thalion

hero

(dauntless man), pl. thelyn. Also used as an adj. ”dauntless, steadfast, strong”.   

thall Speculative

adjective. steep, falling steeply (of river)


Beware, older languages below! The languages below were invented during Tolkien's earlier period and should be used with caution. Remember to never, ever mix words from different languages!

Middle Primitive Elvish

stal

root. steep

A root in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “steep” with derivatives like Ilk. thall “steep, falling steeply (of river)” and Ilk. thalos “torrent”, the latter used for the river name Ilk. Thalos (Ety/STAL). Tolkien continued to use the name S. Thalos in later versions of The Silmarillion, but the name was translated nowhere else, making its continued connection to the 1930s root uncertain.

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/STAL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalga

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalag

root. *stalwart, steady, firm

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalrā

adjective. steep, falling steeply (of river)

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/STAL; EtyAC/STAL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalgondō

noun. hero, dauntless man

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

telek

root. stalk, stem, leg

A root in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “stalk, stem, leg” with derivatives like ᴹQ. telko “leg” and N. telch “stem” (Ety/TÉLEK). Tolkien’s continuing use of Q. telco for “leg” or “stem (of a tengwa symbol)” indicates the ongoing validity of this root (PE22/51; PE17/122; LotR/1118). In earlier writings, Tolkien first gave ᴱQ. pelko “leg” < ᴱ√PELE (QL/73), but ᴱQ. telko “stem” appeared in Qenya Declensions from the late 1920s (PE16/113), and both pelko and telko appeared in declensions from early 1930s (PE21/48, 53) before Tolkien settled more firmly on telko in the mid-1930s, as noted above.

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/TÉLEK] Group: Eldamo. Published by

kalrondō

noun. hero

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/KAL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

bel

root. strong

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/BEL; Ety/DING; Ety/STARAN] Group: Eldamo. Published by

parkā

adjective. dry

Middle Primitive Elvish [EtyAC/A] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Telerin

stalga

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

Middle Telerin [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

belda

adjective. strong

Middle Telerin [Ety/BEL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Primitive Elvish

stalga

adjective. stalga

Early Primitive Elvish [PE13/153] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalgond-

noun. stalgond-

Early Primitive Elvish [PE13/153] Group: Eldamo. Published by

stalqe

noun. stalqe

Early Primitive Elvish [PE13/153] Group: Eldamo. Published by

siripi

root. *stalk

The unglossed root ᴱ√SIRIP is one of the few triconsonantal roots appearing in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s, where it had derivatives ᴱQ. siripta “slender stem” and ᴱQ. sirpe “stem, stalk, slender tube, etc.” (QL/84). In the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon it had derivatives like G. sirp “straw” (GL/68) but also G. thribin “lean” and G. thrimp “stalk” from ✱s(i)rip- (GL/73) since initial sr- became thr- in Gnomish.

Neo-Eldarin: I think it is worth positing a Neo-Root ᴺ√THIRIP “stalk” to salvage some of these early words. I prefer ᴺ√THIRIP over just keeping ᴱ√SIRIP unchanged because (a) it better preserves the forms of more Gnomish words and (b) helps differentiate the Neo-Root from 1930s ᴹ√SRIP “scratch” (Ety/SRIP).

Early Primitive Elvish [QL/084] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Old Noldorin 

sthalga

adjective. stalwart, steady, firm

Old Noldorin [Ety/STÁLAG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

barada

adjective. steep

Old Noldorin [Ety/BARÁD] Group: Eldamo. Published by

belda

adjective. strong

Old Noldorin [Ety/BEL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

parkha

adjective. dry

Old Noldorin [Ety/PÁRAK; EtyAC/A; EtyAC/N] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Gnomish

thrimp

noun. stalk

A noun appearing as G. thrimp “a stalk” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/73), clearly based on the early root ᴱ√SIRIP (QL/84).

Neo-Sindarin: I retain ᴺS. thrimp “stalk” for purposes of Neo-Sindarin, based on an updated Neo-Root ᴺ√THIRIP to better fit Sindarin phonology.

fripthon

noun. stalk

Gnomish [GL/36; GL/73] Group: Eldamo. Published by

tarf

adjective. dry, stale

tarp

adjective. dry, stale

thripthon

noun. stem

A noun for “stem” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/73), clearly based on the early root ᴱ√SIRIP (QL/84). It had a dialectical variant G. fripthon, but that word was glossed “stalk” (GL/36).

Gnomish [GL/36; GL/68; GL/73] Group: Eldamo. Published by

seth

adjective. dry

suib

adjective. dry

Early Quenya

sirpe

noun. stem, stalk, slender tube, etc.

A noun appearing as ᴱQ. sirpe “stem, stalk (slender tube, etc.)” in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s under the early root ᴱ√SIRIP (QL/84).

Neo-Quenya: As this early root does not conflict with any later forms, I would retain this word as ᴺQ. sirpë “stalk, slender tube”. However, I adapt the early root as ᴺ√THIRIP “stalk” to preserve more Gnomish forms, so I would assume the s in ᴺQ. sirpë is from older þ. Furthermore, for “stem” I would use the later word Q. telco (LotR/1118).

Early Quenya [QL/084] Group: Eldamo. Published by

oronta

adjective. steep

Early Quenya [LT1A/Kalormë; PME/070; QL/070] Group: Eldamo. Published by

telko

noun. stem

Early Quenya [PE16/112; PE16/113; PE16/114; PE16/115] Group: Eldamo. Published by

tulka

adjective. strong

Early Quenya [PE16/137] Group: Eldamo. Published by

turka

adjective. strong

Early Quenya [PE16/137] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Doriathrin

thall

adjective. steep, falling steeply (of river)

An adjective meaning “steep, falling steeply (of river)” derived from primitive ᴹ✶stalrā (Ety/STAL). The [[ilk|initial [s] spirantalized the following [t] to [θ] (“th”)]], and the [[mp|[lr] became [ll]]], as suggested by Helge Fauskanger (AL-Ilkorin/thall).

Doriathrin [Ety/STAL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

beleg

masculine name. Strong

Doriathrin [Ety/BEL; LRI/Beleg; RSI/Beleg; SMI/Beleg] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Noldorin

ne(i)rion

noun. hero

Early Noldorin [PE13/150; PE13/164] Group: Eldamo. Published by

tarch

adjective. dry

Early Noldorin [PE13/153] Group: Eldamo. Published by

tarf

adjective. dry

Early Noldorin [PE13/165] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Qenya 

aiqa

adjective. steep, steep, [ᴱQ.] tall; high, lofty, sublime; chief