eredh (germ), pl. eridh
Quenya
erdë
seed, germ
ori
noun. grain, seed
Element in
- ᴺQ. findori “barley”
Elements
Word Gloss o- “together” RIY “*scatter, [ᴱ√] scatter”
Sindarin
eredh
seed
eredh
seed
(germ), pl. eridh
Noldorin
eredh
noun. seed, germ
eredh
noun. seed, germ
A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “seed, germ” derived from primitive ᴹ✶eredē under the root ᴹ√ERÉD (Ety/ERÉD). An earlier version of the entry instead had N. erð (EtyAC/ERÉD).
Conceptual Development: The Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s had G. pim “bead, any small round thing, seed” (GL/64), probably from the early root ᴱ√PINI having to do with small things (QL/73).
Changes
erð→ ereðh “seed, germ” ✧ Ety/ERÉDCognates
- ᴹQ. erde “seed, germ” ✧ Ety/ERÉD
Derivations
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶eredē > ereðh [eredē] > [erede] > [ereðe] > [ereð] ✧ Ety/ERÉD Variations
- ereðh ✧ Ety/ERÉD
- erð ✧ EtyAC/ERÉD (
erð)
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Qenya
erde
noun. seed, germ
A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “seed, germ” derived from primitive ᴹ✶eredē under the root ᴹ√ERÉD “scatter, sow” (Ety/ERÉD).
Conceptual Development: The Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s had ᴱQ. mile (mili-) “seed” under the early root ᴱ√MILI (QL/61) and ᴱQ. ore (ori-) “seed, grain” under the early root ᴱ√ORO (QL/70).
Cognates
Derivations
Element in
- ᴺQ. erdevainë “seed pod, peapod”
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶eredē > erde [eredē] > [erdē] > [erde] ✧ Ety/ERÉD ᴹ✶erdē > erde [erdē] > [erde] ✧ EtyAC/ERÉD Variations
- erde ✧ Ety/ERÉD; EtyAC/ERÉD (
erde); PE22/014; PE22/019
Doriathrin
erdh
noun. seed, germ
A noun meaning “seed, germ” derived from primitive ᴹ✶eredē (Ety/ERÉD). The middle [e] was lost due to the Ilkorin syncope, and afterwards the [[ilk|[d] became [ð] after [r]]], as suggested by Helge Fauskanger (AL-Ilkorin/erdh).
Cognates
- ᴹQ. erde “seed, germ” ✧ Ety/ERÉD
Derivations
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶eredē > erð [eredē] > [erede] > [erde] > [erðe] > [erð] ✧ Ety/ERÉD Variations
- erð ✧ Ety/ERÉD
Middle Primitive Elvish
ered
root. *seed
eredē
noun. seed
Changes
erdē→ eredē “seed” ✧ Ety/ERÉDDerivations
- ᴹ√RED “scatter, sow” ✧ Ety/ERÉD; EtyAC/ERÉD
Derivatives
Variations
- erdē ✧ EtyAC/ERÉD (
erdē)
Gnomish
pim
noun. bead, any small round thing, seed
Cognates
- Eq. pin “little thing, mite”
Derivations
- ᴱ√PINI “*small”
Early Primitive Elvish
mili
root. *seed
An unglossed root in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s with derivatives like ᴱQ. mile “seed” and ᴱQ. milnar(wa) “sown field” (QL/61). The root ᴱ√mil was also given as the basis for G. mail “flour” in the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon, though this Gnomish word was marked with a “?” (GL/56). There are no signs of this root having similar meanings in Tolkien’s later writing.
Derivatives
Variations
- mil ✧ GL/56 (mil)
Early Quenya
mile
noun. seed
Derivations
- ᴱ√MILI “*seed” ✧ QL/061
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴱ√MILI > mile [mili] > [mile] ✧ QL/061
ore
noun. seed, grain
A noun appearing as ᴱQ. ore (ori-) “seed, grain” in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s under the early root ᴱ√ORO (QL/70). Tolkien indicated its primitive form was ✱[or]ı̯ǝ. Tolkien also indicated that its root may be better analyzed as o- + ᴱ√RIẎI “scatter” (QL/70, 80).
Neo-Quenya: There are indications that the root ᴹ√RĪI̯ survived until at least the early 1930s, so I would salvage this early word but update it to ᴺQ. ori “grain” = o + RĪ. I would use the later word ᴹQ. erde for “seed”, however. I would assume that like English “grain”, ori be used both collectively for a mass of “grain” as well as an individual “grain”.
Derivations
- ᴱ√ORO “*sow” ✧ QL/070
Element in
- Eq. orivaine “pod, seed pod, pea; peapod (a boat)” ✧ QL/070
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴱ√ORO² > [or]ı̯ǝ > ore [orjǝ] > [orj] > [ori] > [ore] ✧ QL/070
erdë (1) noun "seed, germ" (ERÉD, VT45:12)