Tom Bombadil
#615
Can the prefix form of that be used as a similative? If so, vē̆- might be an alternative of -ndon. By the way: How should vē̆- be spelled? Is it like vé-?
ve
preposition. as, like, similar, after the manner [of], as, like, similar, after the manner [of]; [ᴹQ.] with
Variations
- ve ✧ LotR/0377; LotR/0377; LotR/0377; MC/222; MC/222; MC/222; PE17/036; PE17/063; PE17/063; PE17/063; PE17/069; PE17/076; PE17/174; PE17/175; RGEO/58; RGEO/58; RGEO/58; RGEO/58; RGEO/58; RGEO/59; VT49/10; VT49/22; VT49/32; VT49/32
- vē ✧ PE17/063
- vē̆- ✧ PE17/130
- vē̆ ✧ PE17/189; VT49/10
Derivations
- ✶bē “as, like” ✧ VT49/10; VT49/32; VT49/32
Cognates
- S. be “in; ?as, like, as, like; in”
Element in
- Q. an sí Tintallë Varda Oiolossëo ve fanyar máryat Elentári ortanë “for now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the Stars from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds” ✧ LotR/0377; RGEO/58
- Q. an sí Varda, Tintallë, Elentári ortanë máryat Oiolossëo ve fanyar “for now Varda, Star-kindler, Star-queen [has] lifted up her (two) hands from Mount Everwhite like (white) clouds” ✧ RGEO/59
- Q. náner ataformaitë ve fírimor quetir “*were ambidextrous as mortals say” ✧ VT49/10
- Q. sívë “*as”
- Q. tambë “*as, so”
- Q. úsië, an cé mo quernë cendelë númenna, ve senya “on the contrary, for if one turned the face westward, as was usual” ✧ VT49/22
- Q. Valar ar Maiar fantaner nassentar fanainen ve quenderinwe coar ar larmar “Valar and Maiar cloaked their true-being in veils, like to Elvish bodies and raiment” ✧ PE17/174; PE17/174 (
ve quenderinwa koainen); PE17/174; PE17/175- Q. vëa “seeming, apparent, seeming, apparent; [ᴱQ.] similar, like” ✧ PE17/189
- Q. véla “*alike, having a likeness or similarity” ✧ VT49/10
- Q. ve loicolícuma “a corpse-candle” ✧ MC/222
- Q. ve maiwi yaimië “like gulls wailing” ✧ MC/222
- ᴺQ. vequi “as if, as though”
- Q. ve tauri lillassië “like leaves of forests” ✧ MC/222
- Q. yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron “long years numberless as the wings of trees” ✧ LotR/0377; RGEO/58
- Q. yéni únótimë ve aldaron rámar “long-years not-countable as trees’ wings” ✧ RGEO/58
- Q. yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier “the years have passed like swift draughts” ✧ LotR/0377; RGEO/58
- Q. yéni avánier ve lintë yuldar “years have passed away like swift draughts” ✧ RGEO/58
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ✶wē > vē̆ [wē] > [βē] > [vē] ✧ VT49/10 ✶bē > ve [bē] > [βē] > [vē] ✧ VT49/32 ✶vai > ve [bai] > [βai] > [vai] > [ve] ✧ VT49/32
Can the prefix form of that be used as a similative? If so, vē̆- might be an alternative of -ndon. By the way: How should vē̆- be spelled? Is it like vé-?
I am not entirely sure that that vē̆- was meant to be a prefix, words like véla and vea suggest that they may be more like a stem/root.