Quenya 

macil

sword

macil ("k")noun "sword" (MAK, LT1:259, VT39:11, VT45:32, VT49:17); macilya "his (or their) sword" (PE17:130), see -ya #4.

macil

noun. sword, forged sword blade, cutting sword, sword, forged sword blade, cutting sword, [ᴱQ.] broadsword

Cognates

  • S. megil “sword, longsword”

Derivations

  • MAK “cut, hew with a sharp edge; kill, slay; forge metal, cut, hew with a sharp edge, [ᴹ√] cleave; sword, fight (with a sword); ️[√] forge metal; kill, slay” ✧ VT39/11; VT41/10

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
MAK > makil[makil]✧ VT39/11
maka- > makil[makil]✧ VT41/10

Variations

  • makil ✧ VT39/11; VT41/10; VT49/17
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Calmacil

light-sword

Calmacil masc. name, *"Light-sword" or possibly (if haplology of *Calmamacil*) "Lamp-sword" (Appendix A). Cf. cálë, cala, calma, macil**.

andamacil

long sword

#andamacil noun "long sword" (anda + macil), attested with the possessive ending -wa (andamacilwa, PE17:147)

andamacil

noun. long sword

Cognates

  • S. megil “sword, longsword” ✧ PE17/147

Element in

Elements

WordGloss
anda“long, far”
macil“sword, forged sword blade, cutting sword, sword, forged sword blade, cutting sword, [ᴱQ.] broadsword”

maca-

to forge metal

maca- ("k")vb. "to forge metal" (which rang at the stokes of hammers). (VT41:10; in this source this is suggested as the origin of the word macil "sword", but mac- above would also seem to be relevant, so Tolkien may have changed his mind about the precise etymology of macil.)

-ya

his

-ya (4) pronominal suffix "his" (and probably also "her, its"), said to be used in "colloquial Quenya" (which had redefined the "correct" ending for this meaning, -rya, to mean "their" because it was associated with the plural ending -r). Hence e.g. cambeya ("k") "his hand", yulmaya "his cup" (VT49:17) instead of formally "correct" forms in -rya. The ending -ya was actually ancient, primitive ¤- being used for "all numbers" in the 3rd person, predating elaborated forms like -rya. It is said that -ya "remained in Quenya" in the case of "old nouns with consonantal stems", Tolkien listing tál "foot", cas "head", nér "man", sír "river" and macil "sword" as examples. He refers to "the continued existence of such forms as talya his foot", that could apparently be used even in "correct" Quenya (VT49:17). In PE17:130, the forms talya "his foot" and macilya ("k") "his (or their) sword" are mentioned.

-rya

his, her

-rya 3rd person sg. pronominal ending "his, her" and probably "its" (VT49:16, 38, 48, Nam, RGEO:67), attested in coivierya *"his/her life", máryat "her hands", ómaryo "of her voice" (genitive of *ómarya "her voice"), súmaryassë "in her bosom" (locative of súmarya "her bosom"); for the meaning "his" cf. coarya "his house" (WJ:369). The ending is descended from primitive ¤-sjā via -zya (VT49:17) and therefore connects with the 3rd person ending -s "he, she, it". In colloquial Quenya the ending -rya could be used for "their" rather than "his/her", because it was felt to be related to the plural ending -r,e.g. símaryassen "in their [not his/her] imaginations" (VT49:16, 17). See -ya #4.

-zya

his, her, its

-zya, archaic form of the pronominal ending -rya "his, her, its", q.v. (VT49:17)

yelca

sword

[yelca noun ?"sword" - Tolkien's gloss is not certainly legible, and the word was struck out anyway. (VT45:11)]

orvincë

 noun. little apple, pommel

Compound consisting of orva "apple" [PE13/116] and -ince diminutive ending [UT/195].

Alternative

From Members Gilruin and Luinyelle: "The semantic space is partially occupied by TOL/NDOL- > tolma “protuberance contrived to serve a purpose, knob, short rounded handle”, tolmen “ boss (of shield)”, dolt “round knob, boss”."

Compound word reasoning

Orvincë was chosen instead of orvaincë for aesthetic beauty as well as simplicity of speech. To my knowledge, no Quenya word begins with orvi, thus generating no conflict with the compound word form.

Pommel origin

From Etymonline © 2022 (confirmed by Webster-Mirriam © 2022) mid-13c., pomel, "ornamental knob or ball, decorative boss;" c. 1300, "knob at the end of the handle of a sword hilt or the grip of a dagger," from Old French pomel (12c., Modern French pommeau), "rounded knob," diminutive of pom "hilt of a sword," and directly from Medieval Latin pomellum, diminutive of Latin pomum "apple" (see pomona), the connecting notion being "roundness." It serves to keep the hand from slipping and for striking a heavy blow at an adversary too close for the sweep of the weapon.

Though process

The word pommel is Franco-Latin in origin and refers to the knob at the end of a European style sword as a little apple. It seems appropriate that Quenya, which is flowing like French and is often referred to as "Elf Latin" should also refer to the balancing knob at the end of a sword as a "little apple." English also uses pommel as the primary word for a knob at the end of a sword handle.

ai reduction

From Member Gilruin: "Erkenbard [demonstrated] the reduction ai → i before clusters is supported by alda + inga → aldinga" (VT47:28)

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Sindarin 

megil

noun. sword

The word was struck out in the Etymologies, but is well attested in late compounds such as Mormegil or Arvegil (with regular mutation). It is conceivably the Sindarinized form of Quenya makil, coexisting with magol (see tegil and tegol for a similar case)

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megil

noun. sword

_ n. _sword. i·arben na megil and 'The Knight of the Long Sword'.

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-deid

suffix. his

_3rd sg. poss. suff. his, her.See also the paradigm of poss. suff. in PE17:46. Earlier -ed_. >> -deith, -dyn, -ed, [[]]

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-deith

suffix. his

_3rd sg. poss. suff. his, her.See also the paradigm of poss. suff. in PE17:46. Earlier -ed_. >> -deid, -dyn, -ed, [[]]

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-dyn

suffix. his

_3rd sg. poss. suff. his, her.See also the paradigm of poss. suff. in PE17:46. Earlier -ed_. >> -deid, -deith, -ed, [[]]

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tîn

adjective. his

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tîn

pronoun. his

Non-lenited form suggested by Carl Hostetter (VT31/21).

Element in

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în

adjective. his (referring to the subject)

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magol

sword

(i vagol), analogical pl. megyl (i megyl), coll. pl. maglath (though analogical ?magolath may also be possible). In ”Noldorin”, this was the native word for ”sword” (derived from primitive makla, as is Quenya macil); it is unclear whether Tolkien definitely replaced it with megil when he turned ”Noldorin” into Sindarin, or whether both words coexist in the language.

megil

sword

1) megil (i vegil), no distinct pl. form except with article (i megil). This is a borrowing from Quenya macil (VT45:32). 2) magol (i vagol), analogical pl. megyl (i megyl), coll. pl. maglath (though analogical ?magolath may also be possible). In ”Noldorin”, this was the native word for ”sword” (derived from primitive makla, as is Quenya macil); it is unclear whether Tolkien definitely replaced it with megil when he turned ”Noldorin” into Sindarin, or whether both words coexist in the language. 3) lang (cutlass), pl. leng.

megil

sword

(i vegil), no distinct pl. form except with article (i megil). This is a borrowing from Quenya macil (VT45:32).

hathel

broadsword blade

(i chathel, o chathel) (axe blade), pl. hethil (i chethil)

tín

his

*tín (only attested in lenited form dín, following a noun with article). Possibly, the word also covers ”her(s)” and ”its” as a general 3rd person form. If ”his” refers to the same person as the subject, the form ín* is used instead (e.g. i venn sunc i haw ín** ”the man drank his (own) juice”, but *i venn sunc i haw dín ”the man drank his (somebody elses) juice”.

tín

his

(only attested in lenited form dín, following a noun with article). Possibly, the word also covers ”her(s)” and ”its” as a general 3rd person form. If ”his” refers to the same person as the subject, the form ín is used instead (e.g. ✱i venn sunc i haw ín ”the man drank his (own) juice”, but ✱i venn sunc i haw dín ”the man drank his (somebody else’s) juice”.

ín

his

(pronoun referring to the subject, e.g. ✱i venn sunc i haw ín ”the man drank his [own] juice”, as opposed to ✱i venn sunc i haw dín ”the man drank his [= another’s] juice”)

lang

sword

(cutlass), pl. leng.

Primitive elvish

makla

noun. sword

Derivatives

  • Aq. makal “*sword” ✧ PE19/083

Variations

  • makil ✧ PE21/71
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Noldorin 

magl

noun. sword

The word megil (q.v.), probably introduced by the Ñoldor, was also used

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magol

noun. sword

The word megil (q.v.), probably introduced by the Ñoldor, was also used

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magol

noun. sword

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. makil “sword” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAK “sword; fight (with a sword), cleave” ✧ Ety/MAK
  • ᴹ✶makla “sword” ✧ EtyAC/MAK
    • ᴹ√MAK “sword; fight (with a sword), cleave” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK

Element in

  • N. Magladhûr “Black-sword” ✧ Ety/MAK; Ety/MAK
  • N. Maglavorn “Black-sword” ✧ Ety/MAK
  • N. Mormegil “Black-sword” ✧ EtyAC/MAK (Mormegil)

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√MAK > magl > magol[makla] > [makl] > [magl] > [magol]✧ Ety/MAK
ᴹ✶makili- > megil[makili] > [makile] > [mekile] > [mekil] > [megil]✧ EtyAC/MAK

Variations

  • megil ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK (megil)
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megil

noun. sword

The word was struck out in the Etymologies, but is well attested in late compounds such as Mormegil or Arvegil (with regular mutation). It is conceivably the Sindarinized form of Quenya makil, coexisting with magol (see tegil and tegol for a similar case)

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megil

noun. sword

maethon

noun. sword

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Qenya 

makil

noun. sword

Cognates

  • N. magol “sword” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶makla “sword” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK; PE19/039
    • ᴹ√MAK “sword; fight (with a sword), cleave” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK

Element in

  • ᴹQ. Mormakil “Black Sword” ✧ Ety/MAK

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶makla > makil[makla] > [makl] > [makil]✧ Ety/MAK
ᴹ✶makili- > macil[makil]✧ EtyAC/MAK
ᴹ✶maklă > makal[makla] > [makl] > [makal]✧ PE19/039

Variations

  • macil ✧ EtyAC/MAK (macil)
  • makal ✧ PE19/039
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makal

noun. sword

etta

pronoun. his

Element in

Middle Primitive Elvish

makla

noun. sword

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAK “sword; fight (with a sword), cleave” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK

Derivatives

  • ᴹQ. makil “sword” ✧ Ety/MAK; EtyAC/MAK; PE19/039
  • N. magol “sword” ✧ EtyAC/MAK

Variations

  • makili- ✧ EtyAC/MAK (makili-)
  • maklă ✧ PE19/039
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Gnomish

aith

noun. sword

Cognates

  • Eq. ekte “sword” ✧ GL/18

Derivations

  • ᴱ✶ektĭ ✧ GL/18
    • ᴱ√EKE “*point”
  • ᴱ✶ektī ✧ GL/18
    • ᴱ√EKE “*point”

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ✶ektĭ > aith²[ekti] > [ekt] > [exθ] > [eiθ] > [aiθ]✧ GL/18
ᴱ✶ektī > aithi[ektī] > [ekti] > [exθi] > [eiθi] > [aiθi]✧ GL/18

Variations

  • aithi ✧ GL/18 (aithi)
  • aith ✧ GL/31
  • aithwen ✧ PE13/109
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aithi

noun. sword

aithwen

noun. sword

ontha

pronoun. his

Element in

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ectha

noun. sword

Derivations

  • ᴱ√EKE “*point”

Element in

  • G. ecthadra- “to slay, put to the sword” ✧ GL/31
  • G. ecthor “warrior, swordsman” ✧ GL/31
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Early Noldorin

segeth

noun. sword

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Early Quenya

ekte

noun. sword

Cognates

  • G. aith “sword” ✧ GL/18

Derivations

  • ᴱ✶ektĭ ✧ GL/18
    • ᴱ√EKE “*point”
  • ᴱ√EKE “*point” ✧ QL/035

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ✶ektĭ > ekte[ekti] > [ekte]✧ GL/18
ᴱ√EKE > ekte[ekti] > [ekte]✧ QL/035
ᴱ√EKE > eksi-[ekti-] > [ektsi-] > [eksi-]✧ QL/035
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