Quenya 

sundo

noun. base

base

Quenya [PE 18:33, 60 PE 18:84, 95] Group: Mellonath Daeron. Published by

talma

noun. basis, basis, [ᴹQ.] foundation, base, root; [ᴱQ.] end

Derivations

  • talmā “basis” ✧ PE21/80
    • TALAM “flat space, flat space, [ᴹ√] floor, ground; base, root, foundation”

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
talma > talma[talma]✧ PE21/80

Variations

  • talma ✧ PE21/80 (talma)

sundóma

base-vowel

sundóma (þ) noun *"base-vowel" (sundo + óma), the determinant vowel of a "base" or root (Christopher Tolkien gives the example KAT, which stem has the sundóma A; the stem TALAT has the sundóma repeated; in derivative forms the sundóma might be placed before the first consonant; e.g. ATALAT) (WJ:319)

talan

floor, base, ground

talan (talam-, e.g. pl. talami) noun "floor, base, ground" (TALAM)

sundo

base, root, root-word

sundo (þ) noun "base, root, root-word" (SUD), sc. a Quendian consonantal "base". According to VT46:16, Tolkien changed the root to STUD, thereby implying that sundo was earlier þundo (compare Sindarin thond "root"). PE18:95 gives the pl. form as sundur, seemingly implying a stem-form sundu-. It is not, however, used in the compound sundocarmë "base-structure" (PE18:84 not **sunducarmë), a term used in the description of the structure of the various Quendian "bases" or roots.

sundo

noun. base, root, root-word, base, root, [ᴹQ.] root-word

Derivations

  • ᴹ√STUD “base, ground”

Element in

  • Q. Sundocarmë “Base-structure” ✧ PE18/084
  • ᴺQ. sundoharmar “capital [funds], (lit.) base treasures”
  • Q. sundóma “determinant vowel, root-vowel, determinant vowel, root-vowel, [ᴹQ.] vocalic determinant”
  • ᴺQ. sundon “bedrock, (lit.) base-rock”
  • Q. Tarmasundar “Roots of the Pillar” ✧ UT/166
Quenya [PE18/084; UT/166; WJ/319] Group: Eldamo. Published by

talma

base, foundation, root

talma noun "base, foundation, root" (TALAM), also translated "bottom" in the expression "top to bottom", see below.% Talmar Ambaren (place-name, *"Foundations of the World" - this is pre-classical "Qenya" with genitive in -en instead of -o as in LotR-style Quenya) (TALAM). Allative talmanna in the phrase telmello talmanna** "from hood to base**, top to bottom" _(VT46:18; notice misreading "telmanna" in the Etymologies as printed in LR, entry TEL-, TELU-)_

tulco

support, prop

tulco ("k") noun "support, prop". Given the primitive form ¤tulku, the word would have the stem-form *tulcu*- and the plural form tulqui**. (TULUK)

taldëa

adjective. bottom

@@@ Discord 2022-05-23 < taldajā

Elements

WordGloss
tal(da)“to the bottom”
Quenya Group: Eldamo - neologism/reconstructions. Published by

Sindarin 

talan

flat space

pl1. telain** **_ n. _flat space, platform. Q. talan or talma. >> tâl

Sindarin [(PE17 Sindarin Corpus) PE17:52] < C.E. _talam-_. Group: Parma Eldalamberon 17 Sindarin Corpus. Published by

tâl

flat space

_ n. _flat space, platform. Q. talan or talma. >> talan

Sindarin [(PE17 Sindarin Corpus) PE17:52] -. Group: Parma Eldalamberon 17 Sindarin Corpus. Published by

panas

talam

(i banas, o phanas, pl. penais (i phenais), coll. pl. panassath.

talaf

floor

1) talaf (i dalaf, o thalaf) (ground), pl. telaif (i thelaif); coll. pl. talavath. The ”Noldorin” plural form listed in LR:390 s.v.

talaf

floor

(i dalaf, o thalaf) (ground), pl. telaif (i thelaif); coll. pl. talavath. The ”Noldorin” plural form listed in LR:390 s.v.

talaf

ground

talaf (i dalaf, o thalaf) (floor), pl. telaif (i thelaif); coll. pl. talavath. The ”Noldorin” plural form listed in LR:390 s.v.

talaf

ground

(i dalaf, o thalaf) (floor), pl. telaif (i thelaif); coll. pl. talavath. The ”Noldorin” plural form listed in LR:390 s.v.

tulu

support

tulu (i dulu, o thulu) (prop), pl. tyly (i thyly)

tulu

support

(i dulu, o thulu) (prop), pl. tyly (i thyly)

Primitive elvish

talmā

noun. basis

Derivations

  • TALAM “flat space, flat space, [ᴹ√] floor, ground; base, root, foundation”

Derivatives

  • Q. talma “basis, basis, [ᴹQ.] foundation, base, root; [ᴱQ.] end” ✧ PE21/80

Element in

Variations

  • talma ✧ PE17/167; PE21/80
Primitive elvish [PE17/167; PE21/71; PE21/80] Group: Eldamo. Published by

talam

root. flat space, flat space, [ᴹ√] floor, ground; base, root, foundation

Derivatives

  • talam “floor; flat space, platform, floor; flat space, platform, [ᴹ✶] ‘flet’; ground”
    • Q. talan “flat space, platform, flat space, platform; [ᴹQ.] floor, ground” ✧ PE17/052
    • Q. talma “flat space, platform” ✧ PE17/052
    • S. talan “platform, flat space, flet [Middle English = ‘floor’]” ✧ PE17/052
    • S. talf “wang, flat field, topographical flat area” ✧ PE17/052
  • talmā “basis”
    • Q. talma “basis, basis, [ᴹQ.] foundation, base, root; [ᴱQ.] end” ✧ PE21/80
  • Q. talan “flat space, platform, flat space, platform; [ᴹQ.] floor, ground” ✧ PE17/052
  • Q. talma “flat space, platform” ✧ PE17/052
  • ᴺQ. talma- “to found”
  • S. talan “platform, flat space, flet [Middle English = ‘floor’]” ✧ PE17/052
  • S. talf “wang, flat field, topographical flat area” ✧ PE17/052

Elements

WordGloss
TAL“foot; *flat; [ᴱ√] support”

Variations

  • talam ✧ PE17/052
Primitive elvish [PE17/052] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Noldorin 

panas

noun. floor

Noldorin [Ety/380] Group: SINDICT. Published by

panas

noun. floor

A noun for “floor” in The Etymologies of the 1930s, an elaboration of N. pân “plank” under the root ᴹ√PAN (Ety/PAN). As such, it likely refers to a constructed floor made of wood or other materials.

Conceptual Development: The Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s had G. blath “a floor” (GL/23), probably derived from the early root ᴱ√PALA having to do with flat things as suggested by Christopher Tolkien (LT1A/Palúrien).

thonnas

noun. base, root, root-word, root-word; *foundation; base, root

Changes

  • sonnasthonnas ✧ EtyAC/SUD

Variations

  • sonnas ✧ EtyAC/SUD (sonnas)
Noldorin [EtyAC/SUD] Group: Eldamo. Published by

thonn

noun. base, root, root-word

Changes

  • sunnthonn ✧ EtyAC/SUD

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. sundo “base, root, root-word” ✧ Ety/SUD

Derivations

  • ᴹ√STUD “base, ground” ✧ EtyAC/SUD; Ety/SUD

Element in

  • N. Morthond “Blackroot”
  • N. thonnas “base, root, root-word, root-word; foundation; base, root” ✧ EtyAC/SUD; EtyAC/SUD (sonnas*)

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√STUD > thund > thonn[stunda] > [sθunda] > [θunda] > [θonda] > [θond] > [θonn]✧ EtyAC/SUD
ᴹ√SUD > sunn[sundo] > [sund] > [sunn]✧ Ety/SUD

Variations

  • sunn ✧ EtyAC/SUD (sunn)
Noldorin [EtyAC/SUD] Group: Eldamo. Published by

talaf

noun. ground, floor

Noldorin [Ety/390, X/EI] Group: SINDICT. Published by

tulu

noun. support, prop

Noldorin [Ety/395] Group: SINDICT. Published by

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Qenya 

sundo

noun. base, root, root-word

Cognates

  • N. thonn “base, root, root-word” ✧ Ety/SUD

Derivations

  • ᴹ√STUD “base, ground” ✧ Ety/SUD

Element in

  • ᴹQ. sundóma “determinant vowel, vocalic determinant” ✧ PE18/060

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√SUD > sundo[stundo] > [θundo] > [sundo]✧ Ety/SUD

Variations

  • Sundo ✧ PE18/033
Qenya [Ety/SUD; PE18/033; PE18/060] Group: Eldamo. Published by

talma

noun. base, foundation, root

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶talmā “foundation, basis, root”
    • ᴹ√TALAM “base, root, foundation; floor, ground” ✧ PE21/56
  • ᴹ√TALAM “base, root, foundation; floor, ground” ✧ Ety/TAL

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√TALAM > talma[talma]✧ Ety/TAL

Variations

  • telmanna ✧ EtyAC/TEL
Qenya [Ety/TAL; Ety/TEL; EtyAC/TEL] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Primitive Elvish

stud

root. base, ground

The root ᴹ√SUD “base, ground” appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s with derivative ᴹQ. sundo “base, root, root-word” (Ety/SUD), but it was given an alternate form ᴹ√STUD with Noldorin forms like {N. sunn >>} N. thund/thonn being added to the entry (EtyAC/SUD). Tolkien’s later of use of S. thond “root” (< ✱stundā?) in S. Morthond “Blackroot” implies the ongoing validity of this root (LotR/1115). In The Etymologies, Tolkien’s first attempt at the basis for “root” words was a deleted entry {ᴹ√NDUM/DUM >>} ᴹ√NDUB/DUB “lay base, foundation, root; found” (EtyAC/NDUB).

Changes

  • SUDSTUD “base, ground” ✧ EtyAC/SUD

Derivatives

  • Q. sundo “base, root, root-word, base, root, [ᴹQ.] root-word”
  • ᴹQ. sundo “base, root, root-word” ✧ Ety/SUD
  • S. thond “root, root, [N.] base; root-word”
  • N. thonn “base, root, root-word” ✧ EtyAC/SUD; Ety/SUD

Variations

  • SUD ✧ Ety/SUD
Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/SUD; EtyAC/SUD] Group: Eldamo. Published by

sud

root. base, ground

Middle Primitive Elvish Group: Eldamo. Published by

talam

root. base, root, foundation; floor, ground

Derivatives

  • Ilk. talum “ground, floor” ✧ Ety/TAL
  • ᴹ✶talam “floor, ground; ‘flet’, platform” ✧ PE21/56
    • ᴹQ. talan “floor, ground” ✧ PE21/62
    • N. talaf “ground, floor”
  • ᴹ✶talmā “foundation, basis, root” ✧ PE21/56
    • ᴹQ. talma “base, foundation, root”
  • ᴹQ. talan “floor, ground” ✧ Ety/TAL
  • ᴹQ. talma “base, foundation, root” ✧ Ety/TAL
  • N. talaf “ground, floor” ✧ Ety/TAL
  • N. talan “flet”

Variations

  • TÁLAM ✧ PE21/56
Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/TAL; PE21/56] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Gnomish

blath

noun. floor

Derivations

  • ᴱ√PALA “flatness” ✧ LT1A/Palúrien

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ√PALA > blath[balatt] > [blatt] > [blaθθ] > [blaθ]✧ LT1A/Palúrien
Gnomish [GL/23; LT1A/Palúrien] Group: Eldamo. Published by

hamra

adjective. lowly, lowlying; base

Cognates

  • Eq. hamba “on the ground”

hôm

noun. ground, base, bottom, seabed

Derivations

  • ᴱ√HAMA “‽”

Variations

  • hōm ✧ GL/49
Gnomish [GL/48; GL/49] Group: Eldamo. Published by

drogol

adjective. servile, slavish; base, mean

drogwed

adjective. servile, slavish; base, mean

Variations

  • drogol ✧ GL/31

taltha

noun. foot (of things), base, pedestal, pediment

A noun in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s glossed “foot (of things), base, pedestal, pediment” (GL/68), based on the early root ᴱ√TALA “support” as suggested by Christopher Tolkien (LT2A/Talceleb).

Derivations

  • ᴱ√TALA “support” ✧ LT2A/Talceleb
Gnomish [GL/68; LT2A/Talceleb] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Primitive Elvish

taw̯a

root. *base

An unglossed root in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s with derivatives like ᴱQ. taule “pillar” and ᴱQ. tauma “basis, foundation, ground floor” (QL/90). In Tolkien’s later writing, this sense seems to have been assigned to √TALAM.

Derivatives

  • Eq. tauma “basis, foundation, ground floor” ✧ QL/090
  • Eq. taule “pillar” ✧ QL/090

Variations

  • taw̯a ✧ QL/090
Early Primitive Elvish [QL/090] Group: Eldamo. Published by

tala

root. support

Derivatives

  • Eq. talta- “to lade, burden, load charge; to enjoin; to oppress, weigh down” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talka “heavy” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talme “weight (abst.)” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talante “scales” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. tal- “to end”
  • Eq. tala “foot; bottom, lowest part” ✧ LT2A/Talceleb; QL/088
  • Eq. tala- “to carry, bring; to weigh (intr.)” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talan “burden” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talar “beast of burden” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talat “dry land”
  • Eq. talas “sole” ✧ LT2A/Talceleb; QL/088
  • Eq. talma “weight, measure” ✧ QL/088
  • Eq. talma “end”
  • G. dal “cairn”
  • G. tâl “foot” ✧ LT2A/Talceleb
  • G. talc “upright”
  • G. taltha “foot (of things), base, pedestal, pediment” ✧ LT2A/Talceleb
Early Primitive Elvish [LT2A/Talceleb; QL/088] Group: Eldamo. Published by

dala Reconstructed

root. support

Early Primitive Elvish Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Quenya

talpa

noun. support, prop, base, basis, pediment (column)

Cognates

  • G. talp “prop, support”

Derivations

  • ᴱ√TḶPḶ “*support, prop” ✧ QL/093

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ√TḶPḶ > talpa[tḹpā] > [tḹpa] > [talpa]✧ QL/093
Early Quenya [QL/093] Group: Eldamo. Published by