Quenya 

nay, no

interjection "nay, no"; the stem √PHŌ/Ū is itself defined as an "interjection of displeasure/dissent" (PE17:181)

interjection. nay, no

Derivations

  • PHŌ/Ū “interjection of displeasure/dissent” ✧ PE17/181

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
PHŌ/Ū > [pʰō] > [ɸō] > [fō]✧ PE17/181

nairë

lament

nairë noun "lament" (NAY)

naina-

lament

naina- vb. "lament" (NAY), also reduplicated nainaina- (VT45:37). Gerund nainië, "lament" as a noun (RGEO:66)

nainië

noun. lament, lament, *lamentation

Element in

Elements

WordGloss
naina-“to lament”
-ië“gerund suffix, -ing”

nyéna-

lament

nyéna- vb. "lament" (LT1:262). Compare naina- in Tolkiens later Quenya.

noi

lament

noi noun "lament" (NAY)

Sindarin 

naergon

noun. woeful lament

Sindarin [PM/362] Group: SINDICT. Published by

naergon

woeful lament

(pl. naergoen)

noe

lament

(noun) *noe (no distinct pl. form). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” nui.

noe

lament

(no distinct pl. form). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” nui.

Primitive elvish

nay

root. cause bitter grief or pain, cause bitter grief or pain, [ᴹ√] lament

Elvish words beginning with nai- seem to be associated with pain and grief for much of Tolkien’s live. This root first appeared as ᴱ√NAẎA “hurt, grieve” in the Qenya Lexicon, but Tolkien said its original form was probably ᴱ√ŊAH͡YA (QL/65). Under the entry ᴱ√NAẎA it had derivatives like ᴱQ. naike “pain”, ᴱQ. naira “dire, grievous”, and ᴱQ. naitya- “damage, hurt; put to shame, abuse”, but Tolkien linked it to augmented forms like ᴱQ. angayasse “miserable”, which were related to the name of the great chain ᴱQ. Angaino used to bind Melkor (QL/34). In the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon the root form was given as ᴱ√ŋaı̯ with derivatives like G. gaist “torment, oppression” and G. gaista- “oppress, cause great grief to” (GL/37).

In The Etymologies of the 1930s, the root form was given as ᴹ√NAY “lament” with a dental nasal rather than a velar (Ety/NAY). Its derivatives had more to do with sadness, such as ᴹQ. naire “lament, sorrow” and N. noer “sad, lamentable”. However, it had what appeared to be an extended form ᴹ√NAYAK “pain” retaining some of its meanings from the 1910s, such as ᴹQ. naike “sharp pain”, though Tolkien did suggested this root might instead be an elaboration ᴹ√NAYKA of the root ᴹ√NAK “bite” (Ety/NÁYAK).

The root reappeared in Definitive Linguistic Notes (DLN) written around 1959 as √NAY “cause bitter grief or pain” with derivatives like Q. naica “bitterly painful or grievous” and Q. naira/S. naer “dreadful, horrible, unendurable” (PE17/151). In this same note Tolkien said √NAY influenced the meaning of √(N)DAY “dreadful, abominable, detestable” in Sindarin; see the entry on √DAY for further details.

Derivatives

  • nayak “goat”
  • Q. nai- “ill, grievously, abominably” ✧ PE17/151
  • Q. naica “bitterly painful or grievous” ✧ PE17/151
  • Q. naira “dreadful, horrible, unendurable, dreadful, horrible, unendurable, [ᴱQ.] dire, grievous” ✧ PE17/151
  • ᴺQ. naita- “to oppress, cause great grief to”
  • ᴺQ. naitya- “to put to shame, abuse, *rebuke; to damage, hurt”
  • ᴺS. naeda- “to oppress, cause great grief to”
  • ᴺS. naena- “to lament, wail for, make moan for, weep”
  • S. naer “dreadful, horrible, unendurable, dreadful, horrible, unendurable; [N.] lamentable, sad” ✧ PE17/151
  • S. naeth “woe, woe; [N.] biting, gnashing of teeth”

Variations

  • NAY ✧ PE17/151; PE17/166
  • NAYA ✧ PE17/166
Primitive elvish [PE17/151; PE17/166] Group: Eldamo. Published by

nay

root. have opportunity, chance or permission; be allowed by circumstance [or] way of the world

A root appearing in Late Notes on Verb Structure (LVS) from 1969 as √NAYA “have opportunity, chance or permission; be allowed by circumstance [or] way of the world” giving a new etymology for Q. nai “it may be”.

Neo-Eldarin: For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I would ignore this root since it conflicts with the much better established √NAY “grief, pain”, and would stick with the well established etymology of Q. nai “maybe, be it that” = Q. ná- + Q. i.

Derivatives

  • nay- “it may be, there is a chance or possibility, maybe” ✧ PE22/151
    • Q. nai “maybe; be it that, may it be that; perhaps, it may be, there is a chance or possibility, maybe; be it that, may it be that; perhaps, it may be, there is a chance or possibility; [ᴱQ.] remoter possibility” ✧ PE22/151

Variations

  • NAYA ✧ PE22/151
Primitive elvish [PE22/151] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Beware, older languages below! The languages below were invented during Tolkien's earlier period and should be used with caution. Remember to never, ever mix words from different languages!

Qenya 

nui

noun. lament

Old Noldorin 

nui

noun. lament

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶nāyǝ “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY
    • ᴹ√NAY “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY

Element in

  • On. Nuinor “Lament” ✧ Ety/NAY

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶nāyǝ > noi > nui[nājǝ] > [nāj] > [nǭj] > [nǭi] > [nui]✧ Ety/NAY
Old Noldorin [Ety/NAY] Group: Eldamo. Published by

nuinor

feminine name. Lament

Variations

  • Nuinoer/Nuinor ✧ Ety/NAY
Old Noldorin [Ety/NAY] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Primitive Elvish

nay

root. lament

Derivatives

  • ᴹ✶nāyǝ “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY
    • On. nui “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY
  • ᴹQ. nai “alas” ✧ Ety/NAY
  • ᴹQ. naina- “to lament” ✧ Ety/NAY
  • ᴹQ. naire “lament, sorrow, sorrow, *sadness, lament” ✧ Ety/NAY
  • N. nae “alas” ✧ Ety/NAY
  • N. noer “sad, lamentable” ✧ Ety/NAY

Element in

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/NAY; Ety/NEI; EtyAC/NEI] Group: Eldamo. Published by

nāyǝ

noun. lament

Derivations

  • ᴹ√NAY “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY

Derivatives

  • On. nui “lament” ✧ Ety/NAY

Variations

  • naye ✧ EtyAC/NAY
Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/NAY; EtyAC/NAY] Group: Eldamo. Published by