Comments by Tom Bombadil

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  • "From their families" (Quenya)

    Nice to see another Whovian, Nimlothiel, it's of course from Doctor Who, penultimate episode of season three (new who).

    Ríon Gondremborion, double plural sounds plausible to me, for the children (-nta) and the families (-llor) are both plural.

    Thanks for your answers.

  • "From their families" (Quenya)

    I try to translate a pretty long quote, and this sentence is one of it's parts:

    "(The children were) taken from their families at the age of eight to enter the academy."

    I have problems to translate "from their families". I think that we need a word for family, like nosse, and two suffixes. One of them should be a possessive pronoun, respectively suffix, and the second one should be an ablative suffix. But what about the number? At least one of the two should be plural, but which one? There are four, basically six, possible combinations:

    1. Nosseryallo (sg-sg)

    2. Nosseryallor/Nosseryallon (sg-pl)

    3. Nossentallo (pl-sg)

    4. Nossentallor/Nossentallon (pl-pl)

    It is definitely not one, and I guess that it is not four, but there I am at my wits' end.

    Could you tell me which combination I need and what every single one would mean in this situation?

    PS. A similar problem occurs "at the age of eight". I would like to say "in their eighth year", respectively "year-their-locative eight". Their must be plural, -nta, but what about the locative ending?

    PPS. The sentence describes the children and a society of a whole planet, so we might need partitive plural instead of the usual plural.

  • Elvish

    Ah, right ... I was just a bit confused because the Eldar are the "people of the stars" of Cuiviénen and because the Avari were there too.

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  • Elvish

    Is there any difference between the Quenya words Eldarin and Quenderin?

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  • Arrogant (Quenya)

    I'm searching for this word, but I have no clue how to create it. Any ideas?

    PS. A word for the opposite, modest, would be useful too.

    PPS. Thanks for every help.

  • A Quenya word for "why"

    I have a further idea, which is not based on a neologism: One could say "What causes (that)", respectively "Man(-a) tyare (sa).". Depending on the context one could change the time of tyar- (especially simple past could be usefull), omit sa or replace it by a real noun.

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  • The Atmosphere layers' structure (Quenya)

    Ok, I did a bit research, and as far as I know the sky is structured like this:

    There are two domes of stars/constellations. One of them is called Nurmenel and it is over Valinor. The second one has two names: Ilmen and Tarmenel. It is probably the main star-layer over Arda.

    There are three atmosphere layers, respectively four. Ilmen is the second, respectively the third. The first one is called Vista and it consists of two sublayers. The lower one is Aiwenor/Aiwenóre. The birds are there. The higher sublayer of Vista is called Fanyamar. Nomen est omen here too.

    The layer over Fanyamar/Vista is Ilmen/Tarmenel, as I sayed before.

    The last (third/fourth) layer is called Vaiya, maybe also Vaia (?). Vaiya is the transition layer between Ekkaia and the region of air. Therefore vaiya is full of a gas, which is a bit fluid. The Ilurambar are behind Vaiya and Avacúma is behind Ilurambar.

    Otherwise I do not understand where Ekkaia is. It is probably either a part of Vaiya, or it is not regarded as an atmosphere layer. It is still weird for I thought that Ekkaia is the outermost part of the discworld Arda, and not a circular atmosphere layer. And what about the Ilurambar? A flying wall? Did the Valar build Arda without gravity?

    Furthermore I do still not know what Fanyare, Telume, Telluma and Vilwa are. Telluma is described as the dome over Valinor, so I guess that Telluma and Nurmenel are synonyms, at least in matters of astronomy, but the other three are still a mystery. Does one of you know what they are?

  • Gloss “equë” by Ardalambion (Helge Fauskanger)

    Could someone give me an example sentence with that word? I don't understand why we need it. "That" is "i" and "sa", and say is "quet-". If I would like to say "he says (that) ...", I will say "quetis (sa) ...". So why do we need eque?

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  • Breathe in Quenya

    The s is sharp and the ú is long, like the s in surname and the ou in soup, or in you. The y is like the y in yes. The a is a bit tricky for it is spelled very differently in various English words. In Quenya an a is always like the u in under, or in fun.

  • Towel in Quenya

    Sovalla- is a verb? It is not yet in Parf Edhellen ... anyway, using verbs is a good idea. I will just call it Poitalanne (Poita-la-lanne with haplology).

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