salpa
bowl
fion
bowl, goblet
fion (2) "bowl, goblet" (LT1:253)
tolpo
bowl
tolpo noun "bowl" (PE16:142)
salpa
noun. broth
A neologism for “broth” created by Boris Shapiro in PPQ (PPQ) from the early 2000s, equivalent to N. salff.
Cognates
- ᴺS. salph “broth”
Derivations
- ᴹ√SALAP “lick up, *sip”
tolpo
noun. bowl
Cognates
- ᴺS. tolph “bowl, basin”
salph
noun. broth, liquid food, soup
The form salf in the Etymologies is a misreading, see VT/45:12
salph
broth
salph (i halph, o salph) (liquid food, soup), pl. seilph (if the word goes like alph ”swan”), with article i seilph.
salph
noun. broth
Cognates
- ᴺQ. salpa “broth”
salph
broth
(i halph, o salph) (liquid food, soup), pl. seilph (if the word goes like alph ”swan”), with article i seilph.
tolph
noun. bowl, basin
Cognates
- ᴺQ. tolpo “bowl”
Element in
- ᴺS. tolpheg “spoon”
salff
noun. broth, liquid food, soup
The form salf in the Etymologies is a misreading, see VT/45:12
salff
noun. broth
A noun appearing as N. salff “broth” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from ON. salpha “liquid food, soup, broth” under the root ᴹ√SALAP “lick up” (Ety/SÁLAP; EtyAC/SÁLAP). In The Etymologies as published in The Lost Road the form was salf (LR/385), but Carl Hostetter and Patrick Wynne corrected this to salff in their Addenda and Corrigenda to the Etymologies (VT46/12).
Neo-Sindarin: For purposes of Neo-Sindarin I would update the spelling of this word to ᴺS. salph “broth”, as suggested in HSD (HSD).
Derivations
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources On. salpha > salff [salɸa] > [salfa] > [salf] ✧ Ety/SÁLAP Variations
- salf ✧ EtyAC/SÁLAP
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salf
noun. bowl, basin
The Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s had G. {salpa >> salp >>} salf “bowl, basin” (GL/66), clearly based on the early root ᴱ√SḶPḶ which also had ᴱQ. salpa “bowl” (QL/84).
Neo-Quenya: The Etymologies of the 1930s had N. salff “broth” under the root ᴹ√SALAP (Ety/SÁLAP). To avoid a conflict, I would coin a neologism ᴺS. tolph “bowl, basin” based on ᴱQ. tolpo of the same meaning from Early Qenya Word-lists of the 1920s (PE16/142).
Changes
salp→ salf ✧ GL/66salpa→ salp ✧ GL/66Cognates
- Eq. salpa “bowl”
Derivations
- ᴱ√SḶPḶ “*lick up”
Element in
- G. salfinc “spoon” ✧ GL/66
Variations
- salp ✧ GL/66 (
salp)- salpa ✧ GL/66 (
salpa)
salpa
noun. bowl
Cognates
- G. salf “bowl, basin”
Derivations
- ᴱ√SḶPḶ “*lick up” ✧ LT1A/Tanyasalpë; QL/084
Element in
- Eq. Tanyasalpe “Bowl of Fire” ✧ LT1A/Tanyasalpë
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴱ√SḶPḶ > salpa [sḹpā] > [sḹpa] > [salpa] ✧ QL/084
tolpo
noun. bowl
A word appearing as ᴱQ. tolpo “bowl” in Early Qenya Word-lists of the 1920s (PE16/142). The Qenya Lexicon and Poetic and Mythological Words of Eldarissa of the 1910s instead had ᴱQ. salpa “bowl” derived the early root ᴱ√SḶPḶ (QL/84).
Neo-Quenya: I would use the later word ᴺQ. tolpo as the Neo-Quenya word for “bowl”, since later ON. salpha from the 1930s was “broth” rather than “bowl” (Ety/SÁLAP).
salpa (2) noun "bowl" (LT1:266), also #salpë isolated from tanyasalpë "Bowl of Fire") LT1:292