Quenya 

nav-

judge

#nav- vb. "judge" (cited in the form navë, apparently the 3rd person aorist). Also given with pronominal suffixes: navin *"I judge" (Tolkien's free translation: "I think"), navilwë "we judge" (VT42:33, 4, VT48:11)

nav-

verb. judge

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nav-

verb. to judge

Derivations

  • NDAB “to judge” ✧ PE22/154; VT42/34

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
NDAB > năvin[ndabin] > [ndaβin] > [naβin] > [navin]✧ PE22/154
ndab > nave[ndabi] > [ndabe] > [ndaβe] > [naβe] > [nave]✧ VT42/34
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nav-

verb. to try

nam-

judge

#nam- vb. "judge", attested in the 1st person aorist: namin "I judge" (VT41:13). Compare Námo.

nam-

verb. to judge

Derivations

  • NAM “judge”

Element in

nev-

verb. to try, to try, *experiment

Cognates

  • S. dev- “to try, to try, *experiment, test” ✧ PE17/167

Derivations

  • NDAB “endeavor, try, seek opportunity” ✧ PE17/167; PE22/151

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
NDEB > nev-[ndeb-] > [ndeβ-] > [neβ-] > [nev-]✧ PE17/167
NDAB > nauva[ndabuba] > [ndaβuβa] > [naβuβa] > [nauβa] > [nauva]✧ PE22/151
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ham-

judge

#ham- (2) vb. "judge", attested in the aorist form hamil "you judge". (VT42:33; notice the pronominal ending -l "you". See nemë. The verb #ham- with the meaning "judge" may seem to be an ephemeral form in Tolkien's conception.)

ham-

verb. to judge

Changes

  • hamenăvin “judge” ✧ PE22/154

Element in

Variations

  • hame ✧ PE22/154 (hame)
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nem-

judge

[#nem- vb. "judge", attested as endingless aorist nemë, changed by Tolkien to hamë and finally to navë "in all but one case" (Bill Welden). Forms like námo "judge" and namna "statute" point rather to #nam- (q.v.) as a verb "to judge" (VT42:34); the verb namin "I judge" is even listed in Etym.]

nem-

verb. to judge

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Námo

judge

Námo (1) noun "Judge", name of a Vala, normally called Mandos, properly the place where he dwells (WJ:402)

námo

noun. judge

Derivations

  • NAM “judge”

Element in

  • Q. Námo “Judge, Ordainer”
  • ᴺQ. námondur “court-attendant, (lit.) judge-servants”

Variations

  • Námo ✧ WJ/402

ve

we

ve (2) pron. "we", 1st person pl. inclusive (corresponding to exclusive me), derived from an original stem-form we (VT49:50, PE17:130). Variant vi, q.v. Stressed , later (VT49:51). Dative (*wéna >) véna, VT49:14. Dual wet*, later vet "the two of us" (inclusive; cf. exclusive met) (VT49:51). Also compare the dative form ngwin or ngwen (q.v.), but this would apparently be wen > ven** according to Tolkiens later ideas.

vi

we

vi pron. "we", 1st person inclusive (PE17:130), variant of ve #2.

-lmë

we

-lmë 1st person pl. pronominal ending: "we" (VT49:38; 51 carilmë *"we do", VT49:16). It was originally intended to be inclusive "we" (VT49:48), including the person(s) spoken to, but by 1965 Tolkien made this the ending for exclusive "we" instead (cf. the changed definition of the corresponding possessive ending -lma, see above). _(VT49:38) Exemplified in laituvalmet "we shall bless them" (lait-uva-lme-t "bless-shall-we-them") (the meaning apparently changed from inclusive to exclusive "we", VT49:55), see also nalmë under # 1. (LotR3:VI ch. 4, translated in Letters:308_)

-lwë

we

-lwë, later -lvë, pronominal ending "we" (VT49:51), 1st person pl. inclusive ending, occurring in the verbs carilwë "we do" (VT49:16) and navilwë (see #nav-). The ending became -lvë in later, Exilic Quenya (VT49:51). See -lv-.

-mmë

we

-mmë "we", 1st person dual exclusive pronominal ending: "I and one other" (compare the inclusive dual form -ngwë or -nquë). First written -immë in one source (VT49:57). Carimmë, "the two of us do" (VT49:16, cf. VT43:6). At an earlier conceptual stage, the ending was already exclusive, but plural rather than dual: vammë "we won't" (WJ:371), firuvammë "we will die" (VT43:34), etemmë ?"out of us" (VT43:36); see also VT49:48, 49, 55. Also compare the corresponding emphatic pronoun emmë (q.v.). The ending -lmë replaced -mmë in its former (plural exclusive) sense. In some early material, -mmë was apparently used as an ending for plural inclusive "we" (VT49:55).

-ngwë

we

-ngwë "we", 1st person dual inclusive pronominal ending: "thou and I" (compare the exclusive dual form -mmë). Caringwë, "the two of us do" (VT49:16). One source lists the ending as "-inke > -inque" instead (VT49:51, 53, 57; "inke" was apparently Old Quenya). In an earlier pronoun table reproduced in VT49:48, the ending -ngwë is listed as an alternative to -lmë, which Tolkien at the time used as the plural inclusive ending (a later revision made it plural exclusive).

emmë

we

emmë (2) pron. "we", emphatic pronoun; dative emmen (VT43:12, 20). In the source this pronoun is intended as the 1st person plural exclusive; later Tolkien changed the corresponding pronominal ending from -mmë to -lmë, and the plural emphatic pronoun would likewise change from emmë to *elmë. Since the ending -mmë was redefined as a dualexclusive pronoun, the form emmë may still be valid as such, as a dual emphatic pronoun "we" = "(s)he and I".

me

we, us

me (1) 1st person pl. exclusive pronoun "we, us" (VT49:51; VT43:23, VT44:9). This pronoun preserves the original stem-form (VT49:50). Stressed (VT49:51). Cf. also mel-lumna "us-is-heavy", sc. *"is heavy for us" (LR:47, mel- is evidently an assimilated form of men "for us", dative of me; the form men is attested by itself, VT43:21). For me as object, cf. ála** "do not [do something to] us", negative imperative particle with object pronoun suffixed (VT43:19: álamë tulya, "do not lead us"), ámen** "do [something for] us", imperative particle with dative pronoun suffixed (ámen apsenë "forgive us", VT43:12, 18). Dual exclusive met "we/us (two)" (Nam, VT49:51), "you and me" (VT47:11; the latter translation would make met an inclusive pronoun, though it is elsewhere suggested that it is rather exclusive: "him/her and me", corresponding to wet [q.v.] as the true inclusive dual form). Rá men or rámen "for us/on our behalf", see . Locative messë "on us", VT44:12 (also with prefix o, ó- ?"with" in the same source). See also ménë, ómë.

we

we

we, , see ve #2

Sindarin 

dev-

verb. to try, to try, *experiment, test

Cognates

  • Q. nev- “to try, to try, *experiment” ✧ PE17/167

Derivations

  • NDAB “endeavor, try, seek opportunity” ✧ PE17/167

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
NDEB > dev-[ndeb-] > [deb-] > [dev-]✧ PE17/167
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-m

suffix. we

1st du. pron. suff. #we (you and me). Q. -mmo.See paradigm PE17:132.

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-nc

suffix. we

1st du. pron. suff. #we (you and me). Q. -lmo.See paradigm PE17:132. >> -ngid

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dav-

verb. to judge

Derivations

  • NDAB “to judge”
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men

we

men (accusative mín ”us”, presumably usually lenited vín, which is also the genitive ”our”).

men

we

(accusative mín ”us”, presumably usually lenited vín, which is also the genitive ”our”).

badhron

judge

badhron (i vadhron), pl. bedhryn (i medhryn); also badhor (i vadhor), analogical pl. bedhyr (i medhyr)

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badhron

judge

(i vadhron), pl. bedhryn (i medhryn); also badhor (i vadhor), analogical pl. bedhyr (i medhyr)

Primitive elvish

ndab

root. to judge

Derivatives

  • ᴺQ. undav- “to condemn, damn, convict”
  • Q. Námo “Judge, Ordainer” ✧ PE22/154
  • Q. nav- “to judge” ✧ PE22/154; VT42/34
  • ᴺS. dav- “to judge”

Element in

Variations

  • NDAB ✧ PE22/154
  • ndab ✧ VT42/34
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nam Reconstructed

root. judge

A root implied by various Quenya words having to do with “judgement” from the 1950s and 60s, most notably Q. Námo “Ordainer, Judge” as the true name of Q. Mandos (S/28), a name that began to appear in documents starting in the early 1950s (PE21/85). The root is evident in other words from this period, such as Q. namna “statute” (MR/258), Q. námië “a single judgment or desire” (VT41/13) and the verb Q. nam- “judge” in the phrase: Q. ore nin karitas nō namin alasaila “I feel moved to do so but judge it unwise” (VT41/13). ✱√NAM might also be the basis for the second element of the name Q. Rithil-Anamo “Doom-ring”, the circle of thrones where the Valar sat in council (WJ/401).

In notes from 1969 Tolkien seems to have changed his mind of the root for “judge”, writing Q. nemin >> Q. hamin >> Q. navin for “I judge”, and giving a new root √NDAB “to judge” in a marginal note along with a revised name Návo to replace Námo (PE22/154, notes #53 and #55). This new root conflicts with √NDAB “endeavor, try” from earlier in the same bundle of documents (PE22/151).

Neo-Eldarin: For purposes of Neo-Eldarin, I would ignore the late change of ✱√NAM >> √NDAB “judge”, since ✱√NAM has more attested derivatives and Námo appears in the published Silmarillion. Also, all of the derivatives of this root are Quenya, and its possible use in the name Rithil-Anamo (coined in Valinor) imply that it might be a root invented after the Elves arrived in Aman. Thus I think it is best to treat it as Quenya-only root, and used ᴹ√BAD “judge” as the basis for (Neo) Sindarin words for judgement by retaining Noldorin words with these meanings from the 1930s (Ety/BAD).

Derivatives

  • Q. nam- “to judge”
  • Q. náma “judgment or desire”
  • Q. namna “statute, statute, *law”
  • Q. námo “judge”

Noldorin 

badh-

verb. to judge

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶bad- “to judge” ✧ Ety/BAD
    • ᴹ√(M)BAD “duress, prison, doom, hell; *judge” ✧ Ety/BAD

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶bad- > bað-[bad-] > [bað-]✧ Ety/BAD

Variations

  • bað- ✧ Ety/BAD (bað-)

badhor

noun. judge

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badhor

noun. judge

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶bad- “to judge” ✧ Ety/BAD
    • ᴹ√(M)BAD “duress, prison, doom, hell; *judge” ✧ Ety/BAD
  • ᴹ✶mbād- “judgement, sentence” ✧ EtyAC/MBAD
    • ᴹ√(M)BAD “duress, prison, doom, hell; *judge” ✧ EtyAC/MBAD

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶bad- > badhor[badro] > [baðro] > [baðr] > [baðor]✧ Ety/BAD

Variations

  • Badhor ✧ EtyAC/MBAD (Badhor)
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badhron

noun. judge

Noldorin [Ety/350] Group: SINDICT. Published by

badhron

noun. judge

Elements

WordGloss
badh-“to judge”
-(r)on“agental suffix”

Variations

  • baðron ✧ Ety/BAD; EtyAC/MBAD (baðron)
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Middle Primitive Elvish

bad-

verb. to judge

Derivations

  • ᴹ√(M)BAD “duress, prison, doom, hell; *judge” ✧ Ety/BAD

Derivatives

  • N. badh- “to judge” ✧ Ety/BAD
  • N. badhor “judge” ✧ Ety/BAD
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Gnomish

umin

pronoun. we

pridwir

noun. judge

Derivations

um

pronoun. we

Variations

  • umin ✧ GL/74

Early Primitive Elvish

pṛtṛ Reconstructed

root. judge

A hypothetical root explaining words in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s such G. pridu- “decide” and G. pridwir “judge” (GL/64). There are no signs of this root in Tolkien’s later writing.

Derivatives

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