Genitive of pan

Hobbit Scholar #3774

Greetings, Elf -Friends! I'm wondering as to how to find the declensions of a word I looked up. Is there a place on the site that I haven't found where I can do that? I'm specifically looking for the genitive of pan, which is Sindarin for all.

Rínor #3775

Hello Julia! It depends on what you are trying to say. I am assuming you meant pân adj. “all, complete, entire, full, the whole” there is also il which means “all” as well it is also an adj.

As for the genitive relationship “of” in Sindarin can be marked in serval ways but the most straightforward is to have the related noun follow the noun it modifies. IE aran Moria “King (of) Moria. Alternatively it can be expressed via the preposition na(n) “of” but that is not used that much.

What are you trying to say using “of all”?

Hobbit Scholar #3776

Hi, Rinor! I am trying to translate my sister's name, Eve, into Sindarin. My father tells me that it means Mother of All Living.

Rínor #3778

Names are one of the more complicated aspects of Sindarin.

So it looks like Eve /iːv/ is derived from the Latin name Eva, in turn originating with the Hebrew חַוָּה‎ (Chavah/Havah – chavah, to breathe, and chayah, to live, or to give life). The traditional meaning of Eve is life or "living". It can also mean full of life and mother of life.

Here is what I came up with. Remember “ch” always like ch in Scottish loch. Never like ch in English chair.

Emelchuith “Mother of Life” Cuithiel “Daughter of Life” Cuithwen “Maiden of Life”

Hobbit Scholar #3780

Wow! Again, my thanks. Out of curiosity, what process did you use to make those names? I'm trying to find Elvish names for all my siblings.

Rínor #3781

Well kind of hard I have a section about it on my sight. sindarincrashcourse.neocities.org

I can help out with other names if you would like.

Hobbit Scholar #3783

I would be grateful for your help, but I have six siblings, so it could take awhile.

Rínor #3784

No worries I don’t mind. Oh, Elves would not use Eru as that would be considered blasphemous in names. So, it would probably be Nathon, or Nathor using “natha” to bring help to, save, rescue. + the male suffix “on” or the agental suffix “or”

Hobbit Scholar #3785

Okay, thanks. The English names are: Job, Ezra, Boaz , Bethel, and Lazarus. Job is Persecuted or He Who Weeps in Hebrew. I thought maybe Einaenar? E- He. I-Who. Naenar- He weeps.

Hobbit Scholar #3786

I just told my brother his name. He says thank you.