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thling

noun. spider, spider's web, cobweb

Noldorin [Ety/386, X/LH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

thling

noun. spider, spider’s web, cobweb

A noun appearing as N. thling “spider, spider’s web, cobweb” in The Etymologies, derived from primitive ᴹ✶sliñgē under the root ᴹ√SLIG (Ety/SLIG).

Neo-Sindarin: Since initial sl- became lh- in Sindarin, most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. lhing, as suggested in HSD (HSD). This word is somewhat questionable, since in later writings √ungu- was the basis for spider words (PE22/160). However, I think ᴹ√SLIG may be reinterpreted as having to do with threads, and as such I think ᴺS. lhing can be retained, though I would limit its use to “spider’s web, cobweb”.

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. líne “cobweb, cobweb; [ᴱQ.] cotton, thread” ✧ Ety/SLIG

Derivations

  • ᴹ√SLIG “*entwine, thread; spider” ✧ Ety/DOƷ
  • ᴹ✶slignē “spider, spider’s web, cobweb” ✧ Ety/SLIG
    • ᴹ√SLIG “*entwine, thread; spider” ✧ Ety/SLIG

Element in

  • N. Delduthling “Ungoliant, *(lit.) Horror Night Spider” ✧ Ety/DOƷ; Ety/SLIG
  • N. thlingril “spider” ✧ Ety/SLIG

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶sliñgē > thling[sliŋgē] > [sliŋge] > [θliŋge] > [θliŋg] > [θliŋ]✧ Ety/SLIG
Noldorin [Ety/DOƷ; Ety/SLIG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

thlingril

noun. spider

Noldorin [Ety/386, X/LH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

thlingril

noun. spider

A noun appearing as N. thlingril “spider” in The Etymologies, probably a feminine form of N. thling “spider, spider’s web, cobweb” (Ety/SLIG). Christopher Tolkien said the r was uncertain.

Neo-Sindarin: Since initial sl- became lh- in Sindarin, most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. lhingril, as suggested in HSD (HSD). This word is somewhat questionable, since in later writings √ungu- was the basis for spider words (PE22/160). I think ᴹ√SLIG may be reinterpreted as having to do with threads, and as such I think ᴺS. lhingril can be retained as originally meaning “(female) web spinner”. However, I recommend later S. ungol as the more common Sindarin word for “spider”.

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. liante “spider, spider, [ᴱQ.] tendril, vine” ✧ Ety/SLIG
Noldorin [Ety/SLIG] Group: Eldamo. Published by

nath

noun. web

Noldorin [Ety/375] Group: SINDICT. Published by

nath

noun. web

A noun for “web” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from the root ᴹ√NAT “lace, weave, tie” with Quenya cognate ᴹQ. natse (Ety/NAT).

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. natse “web, net” ✧ Ety/NAT

Derivations

  • ᴹ√NAT “lace, weave, tie” ✧ Ety/NAT

Element in

  • N. gonathra- “to entangle, enmesh” ✧ Ety/NAT
  • N. nathron “weaver, webster” ✧ Ety/NAT

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√NAT > nath[natse] > [naθθe] > [naθθ] > [naθ]✧ Ety/NAT

ungol

noun. spider

Noldorin [Ety/366, WR/202, LotR, RC/490] Group: SINDICT. Published by

ungol

noun. spider

Element in

Variations

  • Ungol ✧ WR/202