Noldorin 

megli

noun. bear, (lit.) honey-eater

A noun appearing as N. {magli >>} megli “bear” in The Etymologies, a combination of N. mad- “eat” and N. glî “honey”, hence more literally “honey-eater” (Ety/LIS, MAT; EtyAC/LIS, MAT), where dl > gl as was usual in Noldorin. This word also appeared in the phrase i vegli vorn “the black bear” in notes on The Feanorian Alphabet from the 1930s (PE22/33).

Conceptual Development: ᴱN. magli “a bear, honey-eater” appeared in Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s.

Neo-Sindarin: The sound change dl > gl was not a feature of Sindarin, so most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. medli “bear”, as suggested in HSD (HSD).

Noldorin [Ety/LIS; Ety/MAT; EtyAC/LIS; EtyAC/MAT; PE22/033] Group: Eldamo. Published by

megli

noun. bear

Noldorin [Ety/369, Ety/371, X/DL] mad-+glî "honey-eater". Group: SINDICT. Published by

meglin

masculine name. Meglin

Noldorin [LRI/Meglin; SMI/Meglin; WJ/091; WJ/122; WJ/146; WJ/323; WJI/Meglin] Group: Eldamo. Published by

meglivorn

noun. blackbear

A word (and name) appearing as N. meglivorn “blackbear” in The Etymologies of the 1930s, a combination of N. megli “bear” and N. morn “black” (Ety/LIS, MOR). Tolkien considered but rejected the form mormagli (EtyAC/LIS, MOR). The name Meglivorn also appeared in notes on The Feanorian Alphabet from the 1930s (PE22/33).

Neo-Sindarin: The sound change dl > gl was not a feature of Sindarin, so most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. medlivorn “blackbear”, as suggested in HSD (HSD).

Noldorin [Ety/LIS; Ety/MOR; EtyAC/LIS; EtyAC/MAT; EtyAC/MOR; PE22/033; PE22/034; PE22/041] Group: Eldamo. Published by

meglin

adjective. *bear-like

An adjective form meglin of megli “bear” appearing in The Etymologies of the 1930s (Ety/LIS).

Neo-Sindarin: The sound change dl > gl was not a feature of Sindarin, so most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. medlin “bear-like”, as suggested in HSD (HSD).

meglin

adjective. honey-eater, bear-like

Noldorin [Ety/369, X/DL] Group: SINDICT. Published by

glî

noun. honey

A word for “honey” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from primitive ᴹ✶g-lisi under the root ᴹ√LIS of the same meaning (Ety/LIS).

Conceptual Development: In Early Noldorin Word-lists Tolkien also had ᴱN. glí “honey” (PE13/144), presumably similarly derived from the early root ᴱ√LISI. However, in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s the word for “honey” was G. neglis with an initial element √neg- (GL/59), the Gnomish equivalent of the early root ᴱ√NEHE that was the basis for ᴱQ. nekte “honey” (QL/65). It is possible that the second element of G. neglis was based on ᴱ√LISI and this was carried forward into later “honey” words.

brôg

noun. bear

Noldorin [Ety/374] Group: SINDICT. Published by

brôg

noun. bear

A noun for “bear” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from primitive ᴹ✶morókō under the root ᴹ√MOROK (Ety/MORÓK), where the initial syllable reduced to m’rokō and then the initial mr became br.

Conceptual Development: A likely precursor to this word is ᴱN. gorch “bear” (also “fierce fighter”) from Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s (PE13/145, 149).

Noldorin [Ety/LIS; Ety/MORÓK; EtyAC/LIS] Group: Eldamo. Published by

glî

noun. honey

Noldorin [Ety/369] Group: SINDICT. Published by

Sindarin 

medli

noun. bear

Sindarin [Ety/369, Ety/371, X/DL] mad-+glî "honey-eater". Group: SINDICT. Published by

medlin

adjective. honey-eater, bear-like

Sindarin [Ety/369, X/DL] Group: SINDICT. Published by

medli

bear

(i vedli), no distinct pl. form except with article (i medli). The word literally means ”honey-eater”. – Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” megli.

medli

noun. bear, (lit.) honey-eater

Sindarin Group: Eldamo - neologism/adaptations. Published by

medlin

bearish, of bears

(adjective derived from medli ”bear”), lenited vedlin, no distinct pl. form. – Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” meglin.

medlin

adjective. *bear-like

Sindarin Group: Eldamo - neologism/adaptations. Published by

graw

noun. bear

A Sindarin word for “bear” in notes from the late 1960s, derived from primitive ✶grā (VT47/12).

Neo-Sindarin: Its Quenya cognate Q. roa had the revised meaning {“bear” >>} “dog”, so for purposes of Neo-Sindarin it is probably best to stick with [N.] brôg and ᴺS. medli [N. megli] as words for “bear”.

graw

bear

(noun) 1) graw (i **raw), pl. groe (in groe), coll. pl. ?grawath or ?groath (VT47:12). 2) brôg (i vrôg, construct brog), pl. brŷg (i mrŷg**), 3) *medli (i vedli), no distinct pl. form except with article (i medli). The word literally means ”honey-eater”. Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” megli.

graw

noun. bear

Sindarin [VT/47:12] Group: SINDICT. Published by

brôg

bear

(i vrôg, construct brog), pl. brŷg (i mrŷg)

glî

honey

glî (i **lî**);

glî

honey

(i ’lî);

graw

bear

(i ’raw), pl. groe (in groe), coll. pl. ?grawath or ?groath (VT47:12).

medlivorn

noun. blackbear

Sindarin Group: Eldamo - neologism/adaptations. Published by

nîdh

honeycomb

(construct nidh; no distinct pl. form) (VT45:38).

Adûnaic

urug

noun. bear

A noun translated “bear” (SD/426), also given by Tolkien as an example of how common-nouns can be altered into masculine and feminine forms using the suffixes and : urgī “female bear, she-bear” (SD/435).

Adûnaic [SD/426; SD/435] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Primitive elvish

morokō

noun. bear

Primitive elvish [PE21/82] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Telerin 

necte, nette

noun. honey

honey

Telerin [PE 19:91] Group: Mellonath Daeron. Published by

nettë

noun. honey

Quenya 

col-

bear, carry

#col- vb. "bear, carry", not attested by itself by suggested by colindo and colla, q.v.; also compare Tancol.

lís

noun. honey, honey, *sugar, sweetener

A word for “honey” in Definitive Linguistic Notes (DLN) from 1959 given as lîs and derived from the root √(G)LIS (PE17/154); the usual representation of a long vowel in Quenya would be ✱lís. In DLN Tolkien said that it sometimes appeared as līr- in inflections with the usual change of intervocalic s to r, but that its usual stem form was liss-. Indeed, in The Etymologies of the 1930s this word was ᴹQ. lis “honey” under the root ᴹ√LIS of the same meaning, and its stem form was also liss- as indicated by its [ᴹQ.] genitive lissen (Ety/LIS). Tolkien originally gave the base noun as lisse in The Etymologies, but this was deleted and replaced by lis (EtyAC/LIS). In The Etymologies its Noldorin cognate was N. glî.

Conceptual Development: A likely precursor to this word was ᴱQ. ile “honey” in Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s, cognate to ᴱN. glí “honey” (GL/59).

Neo-Quenya: Since there are other honey-words in Quenya like Q. nehtë, I would use lís (liss-) for sweeteners in general, including both honey and sugar.

melu

honey

#melu noun "honey", isolated from melumatya, q.v. (PE17:68)

melu

noun. honey

A word for “honey” appearing only in the compound Q. melumatya “honey-eating” in notes from 1967 (PE17/68).

Neo-Quenya: For purposes of Neo-Quenya, I recommend using the better-established Q. nehtë for “honey”.

morco

bear

morco ("k")noun "bear" (MORÓK)

nectë

honey

nectë noun "honey" (LT1:262; Tolkien's later Quenya has lis; otherwise, nectë would have had to become nehtë_, a form appearing in the Etymologies with the meaning "honeycomb" [VT45:38]. However, this word clashes with _nehtë "angle" or "spearhead, gore, wedge, narrow promontory" from later sources [PE17:55, UT:282].)

nehte

noun. honey

honey

Quenya [PE 19:91] Group: Mellonath Daeron. Published by

nehtë

noun. honey, honey; [ᴹQ.] honeycomb

A noun for “honey” appearing in 1970 green-ink revisions to the Outline of Phonology (OP2) derived from ✶negdē “exudation” based on the root √NEG “ooze, drip” (PE19/91). It was a later iteration of ᴹQ. nehte “honeycomb” in The Etymologies of the 1930s which had essentially the same derivation (EtyAC/NEG). This in turn was a later form of ᴱQ. nekte “honey” from the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s derived from the early root ᴱ√NEHE having to do with bees and honey (QL/65).

Neo-Quenya: For purposes of Neo-Quenya, I’d use this word only for “honey”. For “honeycomb” I’d use ᴺQ. nehtelë inspired by ᴱQ. nektele “honeycomb” (QL/65)


Beware, older languages below! The languages below were invented during Tolkien's earlier period and should be used with caution. Remember to never, ever mix words from different languages!

Gnomish

meglin

masculine name. Meglin

Gnomish [LT2I/Maeglin; LT2I/Meglin; PE13/103; PE13/104] Group: Eldamo. Published by

neglis

noun. honey

Early Noldorin

meglin

masculine name. Meglin

Early Noldorin [LBI/Meglin] Group: Eldamo. Published by

magli

noun. bear, (lit.) honey-eater

Early Noldorin [PE13/149] Group: Eldamo. Published by

glí

noun. honey

Early Noldorin [PE13/144] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Primitive Elvish

lis

root. honey

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/LIS; Ety/MAT; Ety/MOR; EtyAC/MAT] Group: Eldamo. Published by

glisi

noun. honey

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/LIS] Group: Eldamo. Published by

morókō

noun. bear

Middle Primitive Elvish [Ety/MORÓK] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Quenya

ile

noun. honey

Early Quenya [PE13/149] Group: Eldamo. Published by

matsile

noun. bear

A word appearing only as an element in the name ᴱQ. Oromatsile “Great Bear” from Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s (PE13/149). It was a cognate of ᴱN. magli “bear” = “honey-eater”, and hence composed of the same elements: ᴱQ. mata- “eat” and ᴱQ. ile “honey”, where the s appeared because ti became tsi in Early Qenya, so that matile > matsile.

Early Quenya [PE13/149] Group: Eldamo. Published by

nekte

noun. honey

Early Quenya [LT1A/Nielluin; PME/065; QL/065] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Qenya 

lis

noun. honey

Qenya [Ety/LIS; EtyAC/LIS] Group: Eldamo. Published by

morko

noun. bear

A noun for “bear” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from primitive ᴹ✶morókō under the root ᴹ√MOROK (Ety/MORÓK).

Doriathrin

broga

noun. bear

A word for “bear” developed from the primitive form ᴹ✶morókō (Ety/BIRÍT), because in Ilkorin unstressed initial syllables reduced to favored clusters, after which the [[ilk|initial [mr-] became [br-]]]. This word is unusual in that the primitive final vowel did not vanish, but instead developed into -a, as noted by Helge Fauskanger (AL-Ilkorin/broga). The conditions for this exception are unclear, but may have been due to the consonant [g] that developed from primitive [k].

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