How do you create a gloss?

(Deleted 2023-01-30 00:54:27) #2020

It's unclear to me exactly how to create a gloss- what information to put in where in the form. What is the basic process of submitting a gloss to the dictionary?

Gilruin #2022

You can see what's supposed to go where by pressing the "edit" button on an existing word (and then proceed to cancel the edit and create a new word in the contributions tab on your account page)

What neologism do you have in mind?

(Deleted 2023-01-30 00:54:27) #2026

Thanks! I'm thinking of words for "car," or "vehicle." Elvish isn't "modern" enough for too much use these days! It might not get used much, but it would be at least there for when it was needed. Rahaud: car/vehicle or conveyance similar to a car. It's a compound- rach-gaud means wagon-machine (in Sindarin).

I'm not sure if it's correct- I don't know too much real-life linguistics, and am only an amateur in Elvish. However, I am certain enough to submit it and see if I need to revise it.

Quirinius #2027

I think that it is not necessary to create a new word for "car, vehicle" and simply use Q. raxa ⪤ S. rasg/rach for that sense. Comparing it to a real-world language: the Dutch and German cognate of "wain" is widely used as a synonym for "car, vehicle."

Sid #2028

Maybe an interpretation of the Roman 'automobile' would be more suitable, to differentiate it from S. rach and its more primitive meaning?

Something like imávened "self-going (thing)" (√IM “same, alike” + √NĀ “be, exist” + √MEN “go, move, proceed (in any direction))

Quirinius #2029

That is an interesting proposition, but I don't believe that Elves (or Tolkien) would come up with such a construction, especially using a gerund as a concrete noun. And you have mixed Quenya and Sindarin. In light of your idea, however, I would suggest NQ. immenwa ⪤ NS. immem/immenu, leaving out redundant √NĀ and adding -ma.

Having suggested this redundant neologism, I would refrain from adopting it, since a car is basically a contemporary wain. Should we create a neologism for "modern ship," when we already have Q. cirya ⪤ S. cair? I don't think so.

(Deleted 2023-01-30 00:54:27) #2030

That is a good point! Many modern words could simply be substituted by preexisting ones.

Aldaleon #2036

Hi Muigrohir!

Welcome to Parf Edhellen and thank you for your interest in contributing to the dictionary! I see that there's a recent contribution recorded by you:

*rahaud
rahaud
car, vehicle

At this point it's pending review by an administrator. Given the conversation on this thread, would you like to proceed with it?

Thanks,

aldaleon

Gilruin #2037

In any case, rach + gaud can't produce rahaud IMO.

Quirinius #2039

Indeed. It would either be rachod or Gondorian rahod (cf. Rohan).