thórod

noun. torrent

A noun for “torrent” in The Etymologies of the 1930s based on the root ᴹ√THOR “come swooping down” (Ety/THOR; EtyAC/THOR). In The Etymologies as published in The Lost Road Christopher Tolkien gave the form as thórod (LR/393), but Carl Hostetter and Patrick Wynne corrected this to thôrod in their Addenda and Corrigenda to the Etymologies (VT46/19). However, in normal Sindarin/Noldorin orthography ô is only used for monosyllables, so thórod is the expected form.

thórod

noun. torrent

oll

noun. torrent, mountain-stream

A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “torrent, mountain-stream” derived from primitive ᴹ✶ulda (Ety/ULU), where the o became u via a-affection and the ld became ll as usual.

rhib-

verb. to flow like a (?torrent)

A verb in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “to flow like a (?torrent)” [the last word is unclear] under the root ᴹ√RIP “rush, fly, fling” (Ety/RIP). It was related to the name N. Rhibdath or Rhimdath “Rushdown”. It had a past form rhimp followed by another form rhimmo, possibly a Noldorin-style infinitive of a longer variant ✱rhimma-.

Neo-Sindarin: Most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this Noldorin word as ᴺS. rib- “arm” as suggested in HSD (HSD), since the unvoicing of initial r to rh was a feature of Noldorin of the 1930s but not Sindarin of the 1950s and 60s.

old

noun. torrent, mountain-stream

oll

noun. torrent, mountain-stream

rhib-

verb. to flow like a (torrent ?)

The reading of the gloss is uncertain

rhimma-

verb. to flow like a (?torrent)

siria-

verb. to flow

thalos

place name. Torrent

One of the seven streams from which Ossiriand got its name (S/123), and is simply thalos “torrent” used as a name (Ety/STAL). Given the river’s location in Ossiriand, this name might be Nandorin instead.

Conceptual Development: In The Etymologies from the 1930s, the name Thalos was designated Ilkorin, with the derivation given above (Ety/STAL). Like many of the river names in Ossiriand, Tolkien did not give a new etymology of the name after he abandoned the Ilkorin language.

brilthor

place name. Glittering Torrent

A tributary of the river Gelion in Beleriand (S/123), translated “Glittering Torrent” (SI/Brilthor, Ety/MBIRIL). It is a combination of bril “glass, crystal” and a form of [N.] thórod “torrent” (Ety/MBIRIL, THOR). Given the river’s location in Ossiriand, this name might be Nandorin instead.

Conceptual Development: This name appeared in the Silmarillion drafts from the 1930s (SM/135 note #4, LR/263). In The Etymologies, the name Brilthor was designated Ilkorin, with the translation and (essentially) the same derivation as above (Ety/MBIRIL, THOR). Like many of the river names in Ossiriand, Tolkien did not give a new etymology of the name after he abandoned the Ilkorin language.

Brilthor

noun. glittering torrent

bril (Ilk. “glass, crystal”) + thôr (“swooping, leaping down”)

rib-

verb. to flow like a (torrent ?)

The reading of the gloss is uncertain

thalos Speculative

noun. torrent

oll

torrent

1. oll (mountain steam), pl. yll. (The source also cites the archaic form old.) 2) thorod, pl. theryd (archaic thöryd).

oll

torrent

(mountain steam), pl. yll. (The source also cites the archaic form old.)

thorod

torrent

pl. theryd (archaic thöryd).

rib-

verb. to flow like a torrent

rimma

flow like a torrent

(i rimma, idh rimmar)

rimma

flow like a torrent

rimma- (i rimma, idh rimmar)

siria

flow

(vb.) siria- (i hiria, i siriar).

siria

flow

(i hiria, i siriar).

sir

root. flow

The root √SIR and similar roots meant “flow” for most of Tolkien’s life. The earliest form of this root was ᴱ√SIŘI [SIÐI] “flow” in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s with variant sini and derived forms like ᴱQ. sindi “river” and ᴱQ. síre “stream” (QL/84). The latter word became “river” in Tolkien’s later writings, and words appearing in the contemporaneous Gnomish Lexicon like G. sîr “river” and G. siriol “flowing” (GL/67-68) rather than ✱✱sidh- indicate Tolkien very early revised the root to ✱ᴱ√SIRI. Indeed, the root was ᴹ√SIR “flow” in The Etymologies of the 1930s, and the root appeared with this form and essential meaning several times in Tolkien’s later writings (PE22/127, 135).

lutta-

verb. flow, float

lutta- vb. "flow, float" (LT1:249)

lutu-

verb. flow, float

lutu- vb. "flow, float" (LT1:249)

sir-

verb. flow

sir- (1) vb. "flow" (SIR)

sir-

verb. flow

sirya

verb. flow