tatyar

collective name. Seconds (original clan name of the Noldor)

An ancient name for the Noldor as the second tribe of Elves (WJ/380). It is simply the archaic adjective †tatya “second” used as a plural noun.

Elements

Word	Gloss
tatya	“second”

tatya

second

tatya archaic ordinal "second". Nominal pl. Tatyar "Seconds, Second Ones", the original name of the Noldor as the Second Clan of the Elves (or rather the direct Quenya descendant of the original name, which was probably Tatjāi). (WJ:380) Later, tatya as an ordinal was replaced by attëa (VT42:25).

tatya

ordinal. second

Element in

• Q. Atyamar “*Second Home”
• Q. Atyarussa “Second-russa” ✧ VT41/10
• Q. Tatyar “Seconds (original clan name of the Noldor)”

Elements

Word	Gloss
atta	“two”
-ya	“adjective suffix”

Variations

• Atya ✧ VT41/10 (Atya)

atya

second

#atya (1) adj. "second" in Atyarussa "Second russa" (VT41:10)

atya

ordinal. second

attëa

second

attëa ordinal "second", replacing the archaic form tatya (VT42:25)

attëa

ordinal. second

Cognates

• S. tadui “second” ✧ VT42/25
• T. tatya “second” ✧ VT42/25

Elements

Word	Gloss
atta	“two”
-ëa	“ordinal suffix”

Variations

• attea ✧ VT42/25

neuna

second

neuna adj. "second" (NDEW)