Sindarin 

moth

noun. dusk

Element in

both

noun. fen, marsh, fen, marsh; [N.] puddle, small pool

The word N. both first appeared in The Etymologies of the 1930s with the gloss “puddle, small pool” as a derivative of the root ᴹ√MBOTH (Ety/MBOTH). It reappeared in Quenya Notes (QN) from 1957 as a derivative of √MOT “fen, marsh”, apparently of the same meaning, along with variants moth and amoth. For purposes of Neo-Sindarin, I’d use the form both and retain the 1957 and 1930s senses as derivations of slightly different roots.

Cognates

  • Q. motto “fen, marsh, fen, marsh; [ᴹQ.] blot” ✧ PE17/165

Derivations

  • MOT “fen, marsh” ✧ PE17/165

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
MOT > mbotto > both[mbotto] > [mbottʰo] > [mboθθo] > [boθθo] > [boθθ] > [boθ]✧ PE17/165

Variations

  • moth ✧ PE17/165
  • amoth ✧ PE17/165
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(a)moth

noun. fen, marsh

rim

noun. cold pool or lake (in mountains)

Sindarin [Ety/384, X/RH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

loeg

noun. pool

Sindarin [S/407, UT/450, LotR/Map] Group: SINDICT. Published by

loeg

noun. pool

lîn

noun. pool

Sindarin [Ety/369, X/LH] Group: SINDICT. Published by

dusk

(i dhû) (night, nightfall, late evening, darkness), pl. dui (i nui) (SD:302).

fyvril

noun. moth

Derivations

  • ᴺ✶. PHUM “moth”
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moth

dusk

1) moth (i voth), pl. myth (i myth). David Salo would read *môth with a long vowel. 2) (i dhû) (night, nightfall, late evening, darkness), pl. dui (i nui) (SD:302).

moth

dusk

(i voth), pl. myth (i myth). David Salo would read ✱môth with a long vowel.

both

small pool

(i moth, construct both) (puddle), pl. byth (i mbyth). David Salo would lengthen the vowel and read ✱bôth in Sindarin.

bam

noun. sheep

Derivations

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maf

noun. sheep

A neologism for “sheep” coined by Elaran in 2022 on the Vinyë Lambengolmor Discord Server (VLDS), derived from a variant form ✱mămā of primitive ✶māmā “sheep”, the basis of Q. máma “sheep”. This is only one of various possibilities for neologisms for “sheep”: in VQP (VQP) Gábor Lőrinczi suggested ᴺS. maw “sheep” as a direct cognate of Q. máma, and Fiona Jallings suggested ᴺS. ✱baw as a derivative of ✶mbāba, a primitive form that appeared on VT47/35. Both maw and baw have other meanings in Sindarin, however. I used to recommend a word of my own, bam from a reduplicated primitive form ✱mbambā, but I now prefer Elaran’s suggestion of maf.

Cognates

Derivations

Element in

  • ᴺS. gwimmaf “whale, (lit.) sheep of the waves”
  • ᴺS. mavron “shepherd, herdsman”
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maw

noun. sheep

Derivations

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ael

pool

1) ael (aelin-, pl. aelin) (lake, mere). In ”Noldorin” oel, pl. oelin. 2)

ael

pool

(aelin-, pl. aelin) (lake, mere). In ”Noldorin” oel, pl. oelin.

loeg

pool

loeg (no distinct pl. form: loeg is also atttested with plural meaning) (VT45:29). 4) nên (water, lake, stream, waterland), construct nen, pl. nîn.

loeg

pool

(no distinct pl. form: loeg is also atttested with plural meaning) (VT45:29). 4) nên (water, lake, stream, waterland), construct nen, pl. nîn.

lîn

pool

lîn (lake), no distinct pl. form, but coll. pl. #**liniath (isolated from Hithliniath**, WJ:194). 3)

lîn

pool

(lake), no distinct pl. form, but coll. pl. #*liniath*** (isolated from Hithliniath**, WJ:194). 3)

tinnu

dusk

tinnu (i dinnu, o thinnu) (twilight, starlit evening, early night without a moon, starry twilight), pl. tinny (i thynny) if there is a pl.

tinnu

dusk

(i dinnu, o thinnu) (twilight, starlit evening, early night without a moon, starry twilight), pl. tinny (i thynny) if there is a pl.