lia
fine thread, spider filament
lia-
twine
lia- vb. "twine" (LT1:271)
Ipsin
fine thread
Ipsin noun "fine thread" (PE17:17)
ipsin
noun. fine thread
A word for “fine thread” derived from the root √SPIN- in notes from the mid-1960s (PE17/17).
Cognates
- S. esbin “thin thread, tress” ✧ PE17/017
Derivations
- √SPIN(ID) “fine thread, filament; hair” ✧ PE17/017
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources √SPIN- > ipsin [ispin] > [ipsin] ✧ PE17/017
lhê
fine thread
*lhê (?i thlê or ?i lê the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (spider filament), pl. lhî (?i lî). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thlê.
lhê
fine thread
*lhê (?i thlê or ?i lê the lenition product of lh is uncertain) (spider filament), pl. lhî (?i lî). Suggested Sindarin form of ”Noldorin” thlê. -THREAD, see MIST.
lhê
noun. fine thread, spider filament
thlê
noun. fine thread, spider filament
A noun appearing as N. thlê “fine thread, spider filament” in The Etymologies of the 1930s derived from ᴹ✶(s)ligā under the root ᴹ√SLIG having to do with spider words (Ety/SLIG).
Conceptual Development: A possible precursor is G. lind “twine” from the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/54), apparently based on the early root ᴱ√LI+ya “unite many as one” (QL/53).
Neo-Sindarin: In Tolkien’s later writings, √ungu- became the basis for spider words, but I retain ᴹ√SLIG assuming it has to do with threads and twining to salvage words from the 1910s and 30s. Most Neo-Sindarin writers adapt this word as ᴺS. lhê “fine thread, spider filament”, for example as suggested by Hiswelókë’s Sindarin Dictionary (HSD), because in (Old) Sindarin of the 1950s and 60s initial sl- became lh-, as opposed to (Old) Noldorin of the 1930s where it became thl-.
Cognates
- ᴹQ. lia “fine thread, spider filament, fine thread, spider filament; [ᴱQ.] twine, *wire” ✧ Ety/SLIG
Derivations
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶ligā > thlê [sligā] > [sliga] > [θliga] > [θliɣa] > [θleɣa] > [θleɣ] > [θlēɣ] > [θlē] ✧ Ety/SLIG
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lia
noun. fine thread, spider filament, fine thread, spider filament; [ᴱQ.] twine, *wire
A noun in The Etymologies of the 1930s glossed “fine thread, spider filament” and derived from ᴹ✶ligā under the root ᴹ√SLIG having to do with spider words (Ety/SLIG).
Conceptual Development: The word ᴱQ. lia “twine” appeared in the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s under the early root ᴱ√LI+ya “unite many as one” with derivatives having to do with threads and vines (QL/53).
Neo-Quenya: In Tolkien’s later writings, √ungu- became the basis for spider words, but I retain ᴹ√SLIG assuming it has to do with threads and twining to salvage words from the 1910s and 30s. As such I’d use lia for threads and cords that are relatively thin compared to other items of their class, especially those crafted by twining: “fine thread”, a “twine” as a thin cord and by extension things like a “✱wire”.
Cognates
- N. thlê “fine thread, spider filament” ✧ Ety/SLIG
Derivations
Element in
- ᴺQ. lialóra “cordless, wireless”
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶ligā > lia [sligā] > [l̥igā] > [l̥iɣā] > [l̥iā] > [liā] > [lia] ✧ Ety/SLIG
ligā
noun. fine thread, spider filament
Derivations
- ᴹ√SLIG “*entwine, thread; spider” ✧ Ety/SLIG
Derivatives
lind
noun. twine
Cognates
- Eq. lia “twine” ✧ LT1A/Ungwë Lianti
Derivations
lia
noun. twine
Cognates
- G. lind “twine” ✧ LT1A/Ungwë Lianti
Derivations
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴱ√LI+ya > lia [lijā] > [lija] > [lia] ✧ QL/053
lia noun "fine thread, spider filament" (SLIG).