topon. . This gloss was rejected.
Sindarin
lhûn
lhûn
lhûn
Lhûn
lhûn
deep of water
n. deep of water. Tolkien notes that this word was "applied originally to the Gulf".
lhûn
place name. Deep of Water
The Sindarin name of the river Lune (LotR/1134).
Conceptual Development: When this name first appeared in Lord of the Rings drafts from the 1940s, N. Lhûn was translated “Blue River” (TI/124), clearly based on the Noldorin word for “blue”: lhûn (Ety/LUG²). Tolkien later changed the Sindarin word for “blue” to luin, so this derivation no longer worked. At one point he even considered renaming the river to Sîr Luin, but decided against it since Lhûn already appeared on the published maps of The Lord of the Rings (VT48/28).
In notes on the nomenclature of The Lord of the Rings from 1966-7, Tolkien considered a variety of derivations for this name (PE17/136-7), ultimately connecting it to the root √(S)LOW “flow freely (fully)” from which l(h)ô “flood” was derived, as well as Q. lóne “(deep) pool”. He translated the name as “deep of water”, saying that the name originally applied to the gulf rather than the river. Later Tolkien invented another derivation, from the Dwarvish words sulûn/salôn “fall, descend swiftly” (VT48/24).
A fuller discussion of these developments can be found in Patrick Wynne’s article “The Problem of Lhûn” (VT48/26-29).
Derivations
Variations
- lhûn ✧ PE17/137; PE17/137; VT48/28; VT48/28; VT48/28
luin
adjective. blue
luin
blue
adj. blue. . This gloss was rejected.
luin
jhJ5 adjective. blue
Examples: Ered luin, Helluin, Luinil, Mindolluin
luin
adjective. blue
Cognates
- Q. luinë “blue” ✧ SA/luin; VT48/23; VT48/28
Derivations
Element in
- S. Aeluin “*Blue Lake” ✧ S/162
- S.
caralluin“*red-blue”- S. Draugluin “*Blue (Were)wolf”
- S. Ered Luin “Blue Mountains” ✧ SA/luin; VT48/23; VT48/24; VT48/28
- S. Hirluin
- S. Ithryn Luin “Blue Wizards” ✧ UT/390
- S. Mindolluin “Towering Blue-head” ✧ SA/luin
- ᴺS. nelluin “bluebell”
- S. Sîr Luin ✧ VT48/23; VT48/28 (
Sîr Luin)Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources √LUY > Luin [luini] > [luine] > [luin] ✧ VT48/23 ✶luini > luin [luini] > [luine] > [luin] ✧ VT48/24 Variations
- Luin ✧ Let/448; VT48/23
rû
noun. loud-sound, trumpet-sound
elu
adjective. (pale) blue
lô
blue
adj. blue. . This gloss was rejected.
romru
noun. sound of horns
lhûn
making sound
lenited ?thlûn or ?lûn (the lenition product of lh is uncertain), pl. lhuin. Verb
lhûn
making sound
(a speculative interpretation of this adj.) lhûn, lenited ?thlûn or ?lûn (the lenition product of lh is uncertain), pl. lhuin. Verb
luin
blue
luin (no distinct pl. form, as demonstrated by the name Ered Luin ”Blue Mountains”) (VT48:24)
law
noun. sound
Cognates
- Q. láma “sound, sound; [ᴹQ.] ringing sound, echo”
Derivations
- √LAM “(inarticulate voiced) sound”
nellad
sound of bells
(pl. nellaid);
romru
sound of horns
pl. remry (idh remry) for archaic römry;
lammad
sound of voices
pl. lemmaid. May also be spelt with a single m.
applied to rivers always full of water, at all seasons draining from mountains, as ringlo, gwathlo.