Difference between ore and romen

Joe N #2053

Hi. I was wondering what the difference is between the two tengwar letters for R. When should I use "ore" and when should I use "romen"?

Gilruin #2054

That depends on the mode (Classical, Beleriand, General use for English depending on the accent, etc.) you want to write in, they have different conventions.

Joe N #2055

Quenya mode? General use?

Either one works

Gilruin #2057

In the Classical mode for Quenya, you use rómen if the r is followed by a vowel, a y or another r, otherwise with óre. The combination rd is written with arda:

rómen , cirya , urra , formen , alcar , arda (rómen, cirya, urra, formen, alcar, arda)

For the general use, it depends on whether you transcribe Quenya, Sindarin, rhothic dialects of English or non-rhothic dialects of English. Most English in Tengwar you will see on the internet use basically the same rule as in Quenya, rómen before vowels, óre otherwise:

red , car , art (red , car , art)

Also, this site has really great articles on the different Tengwar models, you might want to give it a look: at.mansbjorkman.net