Translation Help!

Hi Everyone!

I've been looking for a suitable name to give to my Silvan character I wrote for a Paper and Pen Roleplaying game with some friends. He'd be speaking Sindarin within the Court of Oropher/Thranduil so I wanted to his first name fully Sindarin while potentially giving his Surname Or Epessë a Silvan or Woodland-tongue homage.

Celethlorn is what I've got as of now...

celeth for Stream and lorn for quiet water.

My hope is for this to potentially mean (Quiet-Stream) but my mastery of Sindarin grammar is lackluster at best...

Does that make grammatical sense or does the noun not modify Celeth into (Quiet-Stream)? Thanks for the help, hope my question was fairly transparent. Regards, John

The word *lorn (N. lhorn) in the sense "quiet water" comes from Pre-1950 drafts. The actual (i.e. Post-1950) lorn in Sindarin means "asleep". What Sindarin uses for "silent" is dîn or dínen.

Almost all compound words (including names) have initial modifiers, thus I would offer Dingeleth. However that final "-eth" can be misinterpreted as a feminine suffix, so a better alternative would be Dingelon with the attested (though somewhat old) celon "stream, river (lit. flow-er)".

Oh wow, thanks for the fast reply! Dingelon sounds very nice! Would something as simple as Celethlîr also make sense for a Wood-Elf? Especially one with potential history with the Laegrim of Ossiriand? The Epessë I had floating around for him would be something like Laegeldir or Laegelhir as a scion of the lost realm of Ossiriand.

Thanks again for all the help! I'm currently studying classics and hope to use Greek and Latin as a good foothold into learning Sindarin!

Regards, John

Celethlîr should be Celethlir, without "î" (long i), if the intended meaning is "River-song, Song of river". Laegeldir "Green-Elf-man" is phonetically fine, Laegelhir should be Laegelchir, meaning "Green-Elf Lord, Lord of Green-Elves". If these are not the intended meanings, simply ask for the translations of what you wish to use.

Yes, those are the intended translations for sure! I think these names will work for a Silvan Elf! Thank you ever so much for your help. My hope is to use this site is a resource as often as possible!