neldor noun "beech" (LT2:343)
Quenya
feren
beech, beech-tree
neldor
beech
feren
beech, beech-tree
neldor
beech
neldor noun "beech" (LT2:343)
neldor
noun. beech
A Sindarin word for “beech” appearing in the names Taur-na-Neldor “Beech-forest” (LotR/469; RC/384) and Neldoreth, the name of a forest with beeches (S/55; PE17/81).
Conceptual Development: In The Etymologies of the 1930s, Ilk. neldor was an Ilkorin word based on ᴹ√NÉL-ED “three”, which Tolkien said was “properly name of Hirilorn the great beech of Thingol with three trunks = neld-orn ? [question mark from Tolkien]” (Ety/NEL). In the 1910s and 20s, ᴱQ. neldor “beech” was an Early Qenya word (PE16/139; QL/65), and its cognates in this period were G. deldron “beech” in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/30), G. deil(i)an or delwen “beech” in Gnomish Lexicon Slips (PE13/112), and ᴱN. {de(i)lian >>} deilian “beech-tree” in Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s (PE13/142).
Possible Etymology: The Ilkorin derivation from √NELED is no longer suitable in Sindarin, since we would expect [[s|[d] > [ð]]] as in S. neledh “three”. It is possible Tolkien simply never reexamined the etymology of this word after it became Sindarin. Alternately, it could be nel- “tri-” + taur “forest” or -dor “-lord” or something similar.
Element in
- S. Neldoreth ✧ SA/neldor
- S. Taur-na-Neldor “Beech-forest” ✧ LotR/0469
Elements
Word Gloss nel- “tri-” orn “(tall straight) tree”
brethil
noun. beech, beech-tree, silver birch
fêr
beech
†fêr (stem feren-, pl. ferin) (mast);
fêr
beech
(stem feren-, pl. ferin) (mast);
neldor
beech tree
(pl. neldyr), also brethorn (i vrethorn), pl. brethyrn (i mrethyrn) (VT46:3). The mallorn or ”golden-tree” found in Lórien was supposedly beechlike: mallorn (i vallorn), pl. mellyrn (i mellyrn).
pher
root. *ready, prompt
An unglossed root given as √PHERE appearing in Definitive Linguistic Notes (DLN) from 1959 with derivatives like S. fair “quick, ready, prompt” and Q. ferya-/S. feria- “make ready (promptly)” (PE17/181), so the root probably meant “✱ready, prompt”.
Derivatives
Variations
- PHERE ✧ PE17/181
fêr
noun. beech-tree
brethel
noun. beech, beech-tree, silver birch
brethel
noun. beech
brethil
noun. beech
Changes
brethil→ brethel ✧ Ety/NELCognates
- ᴹT. bredele “beech-tree” ✧ Ety/BERÉTH
Derivations
- ᴹ√BERETH “beech” ✧ Ety/NEL; Ety/PHER
Element in
- N. Brethil ✧ Ety/NEL
- N. Brethilian(d) “Forest of Brethil” ✧ Ety/BERÉTH
- N. Nimbrethil
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ√BERÉTH > brethel [berétʰele] > [bretʰel] > [breθele] > [breθel] ✧ Ety/NEL ᴹ√BERÉTH > brethil [berétʰelī] > [bretʰelī] > [bretʰeli] > [breθeli] > [breθili] > [breθil] ✧ Ety/NEL Variations
- brethel ✧ Ety/NEL
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neldor
noun. beech
A Doriathrin noun for “beech (tree)”, properly referring to Hirilorn with a true meaning of “three trunks” (Ety/NEL). Tolkien indicated it was a combination of neld “three” and orn “tree”, though it is unclear why the final -n vanished. He marked this derivation with a “?” perhaps because of this uncertainty.
Conceptual Development: Tolkien seems to have coined this word to explain names like Neldoreth. Its most obvious precursor is ᴱQ. neldor (QL/65).
Element in
- Ilk. Neldoreth ✧ Ety/NEL
Elements
Word Gloss neld “three” orn “tree”
galbreth
noun. beech
A Doriathrin (and Falathrin) noun for “beech (tree)”, a combination of gald “tree” and breth “(beech) mast” (Ety/GALAD, BERÉTH). The second element originally meant “beech”, but later meant “mast”; this original meaning seems to be preserved in this compound.
Elements
Word Gloss gald “tree” breth “(beech) mast, *beech nut” Variations
- galdbreth ✧ Ety/NEL (Dor. galdbreth)
pher(en)
root. beech
Derivatives
Variations
- PHER ✧ Ety/BERÉTH; Ety/PHER
- PHÉREN ✧ Ety/PHER
bereth
root. beech
A root in The Etymologies of the 1930s serving principally as the basis for N. brethil “beech” (Ety/BERÉTH). In the notes from the late 1950s or early 1960s Tolkien instead connected brethil to the root √BARATH and S. bereth “queen”, where it had the true meaning of “princess” (PE17/23). But that could be a later association rather that a genuine etymology, and doesn’t necessarily invalidate ᴹ√BERETH (especially given the other phonological issues with S. bereth < √BARATH).
Derivatives
Element in
- Ilk. galbreth “beech” ✧ Ety/GALAD; Ety/NEL
Variations
- BERÉTH ✧ Ety/BERÉTH; Ety/GALAD; Ety/NEL; Ety/PHER; EtyAC/BERÉTH
ferne
noun. beech
Cognates
- ᴹQ. feren “beech-tree” ✧ Ety/PHER
Derivations
- ᴹ√PHER(EN) “beech” ✧ Ety/PHER
neldor
noun. beech
Cognates
- G. deldron “beech (tree)”
Derivations
- ᴱ√NELE “point” ✧ QL/065
Element in
- Eq. líneneldora “having many beeches” ✧ QL/053
- Eq. neldorin “beech-tree” ✧ QL/065
- Eq. neldorion “beech wood” ✧ QL/065
- Eq. neldor nornelassea “*oakleaved beech” ✧ QL/065
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴱ√NELE > neldor [neldor] ✧ QL/065 Variations
- ňeldor ✧ PME/065
feren (stem fern-, as in pl. ferni) noun "beech, beech-tree". Also fernë. (BERÉTH, PHER/PHÉREN)