Quenya 

matina

participle. eaten

Quenya [PE 22:107] Group: Mellonath Daeron. Published by

matta

noun. food

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matta

noun. food

A noun for “food” from the Common Eldarin: Verb Structure (EVS2) of the early 1950s, derived from primitive ✶matnā, originally an ancient adjective meaning “eaten” (PE22/136).

Conceptual Development: In the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s the word for “food” was ᴱQ. matl under the early root ᴱ√MATA (QL/59). This became ᴱQ. {masta} >> matso in Early Qenya Word-lists of the 1920s (PE16/141). In EVS2 the word was originally manna “food”, but this was struck through and replaced by matta (PE22/136 note #36), which likely reflects Tolkien’s shift in the phonetic developments of primitive tn, so that tn became tt rather than nn as it did in Tolkien’s earlier writings (PE19/85 and note #79).

Neo-Quenya: I find the phonetic developments associated with the above sound change to be problematic for various reasons. Therefore, I prefer to assume the primitive form of this word was an ancient noun: ✱mattā.

Changes

  • mannamatta ✧ PE22/136

Cognates

  • ᴺS. math “food”
  • ᴺS. mann “food”

Derivations

  • matnā “eaten, eaten, [ᴹ✶] food” ✧ PE22/136

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
matnā > matta[matnā] > [mattā] > [matta]✧ PE22/136

Variations

  • manna ✧ PE22/136 (manna)

mat-

verb. to eat

The verb for “to eat” derived from the root √MAT of the same meaning (VT39/7).

Conceptual Development: This verb and root are quite well established, dating all the way back to ᴱQ. mat- and ᴱ√MATA of the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910s (QL/59) and appearing as ᴹQ. mat- and ᴹ√MAT in The Etymologies of the 1930s (Ety/MAT), as well as numerous other places albeit with occasional variants like mata- (PE12/26). This verb was one Tolkien often used in examples of verb conjugations and as such its inflected forms changed considerably over time, but that is more a topic of the evolution of the Quenya verb system itself.

Cognates

  • S. mad- “to eat”
  • T. mat- “to eat”

Derivations

  • mat- “to eat” ✧ PE22/132; PE22/157
    • MAT “eat”
  • MAT “eat” ✧ VT39/07

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
mat-ubā-ni/njē > matuvanye[matubānjē] > [matuβānjē] > [matuβanjē] > [matuβanje] > [matuvanje]✧ PE22/132
MATA > mante[mante]✧ VT39/07
Quenya [PE17/013; PE17/076; PE22/131; PE22/132; PE22/157; PE22/162; VT39/07] Group: Eldamo. Published by

matl

food

matl noun "food"; read *matil in LotR-style Quenya (in which language final syllabic -l becomes -il) (QL:59); however, the word matso from a later source may be preferred.

matso

food

matso noun "food" (PE16:141)

matina

adjective. eaten

Elements

WordGloss
mat-“to eat”
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Sindarin 

mad-

verb. to eat

The verb for “to eat” derived from the root √MAT of the same meaning (PE17/131; Ety/MAT). In Tolkien’s later writing it appears only in inflected forms, but the verb itself is well established, dating back all the way to G. mad- in the Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s (GL/56). This verb was one Tolkien often used in examples of verb conjugations and as such its inflected forms changed considerably over time, but that is more a topic of the evolution of the Sindarin verb system.

Cognates

  • Q. mat- “to eat”
  • T. mat- “to eat”

Derivations

  • mat- “to eat” ✧ PE17/131; PE17/131
    • MAT “eat”

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
mantinā > manthen > mannen[mantinā] > [mantina] > [mantʰina] > [manθina] > [manθena] > [manθen] > [mannen]✧ PE17/131
matina > maden[matina] > [matena] > [maten] > [maden]✧ PE17/131
Sindarin [PE17/131; PE17/145] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mann

food

mann (i vann, construct man), pl. main (i main) (VT45:35).

mann

noun. food

Cognates

Derivations

  • matnā “eaten, eaten, [ᴹ✶] food”

mann

food

(i vann, construct man), pl. main (i main) (VT45:35).

math

noun. food

Cognates

Derivations

  • MAT “eat”

salph

liquid food

(i halph, o salph) (soup, broth), pl. seilph (if the word goes like alph ”swan”), with article i seilph.

Telerin 

mat-

verb. to eat

Cognates

  • Q. mat- “to eat”
  • S. mad- “to eat”

Derivations

  • mat- “to eat”
    • MAT “eat”
Telerin [PE22/130; PE22/132] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Primitive elvish

matnā

adjective. eaten, eaten, [ᴹ✶] food

Derivatives

  • Q. matta “food” ✧ PE22/136
  • ᴺS. mann “food”

Elements

WordGloss
mat-“to eat”
-nā“adjective suffix; passive participle”
Primitive elvish [PE22/136] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mat-

verb. to eat

Derivations

  • MAT “eat”

Derivatives

  • Q. mat- “to eat” ✧ PE22/132; PE22/157
  • S. mad- “to eat” ✧ PE17/131; PE17/131
  • T. mat- “to eat”

Element in

Variations

  • mata ✧ VT39/09
Primitive elvish [PE17/131; PE18/106; PE22/129; PE22/130; PE22/131; PE22/132; PE22/134; PE22/136; PE22/139; PE22/157; VT39/09] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Noldorin 

mann

noun. food

The earliest word for “food” in precursors to the Sindarin language was G. môs “food (of men)” (GL/56, 58), probably based on the early root ᴱ√M(B)ASA “cook, bake” (QL/59). This became ᴱN. math “food” in Early Noldorin Word-lists of the 1920s, appearing only in its lenited form vath as an element in ᴱN. orvath “foodless” (PE13/155). In The Etymologies of the 1930s Tolkien had N. mann “food” as a derivative of primitive ᴹ✶matna under the root ᴹ√MAT “eat”, but the version of the entry where this form appeared was struck out (EtyAC/MAT). The primitive form ✶matnā “food” did reappear in the early 1950s, however (PE22/136).

Neo-Sindarin: Of the above, I prefer ᴺS. math for “food”. I first saw math proposed as the Neo-Sindarin word for “food” in a list of neologisms by Elaran on the Vinyë Lambengolmor Discord Server (VLDS) from 2018. I prefer math because I tend to assume Q. matta is derived from ✱mattā rather than ✶matnā to avoid certain phonological difficulties; see that entry for discussion. If you are not concerned with those difficulties, ᴺS. mann “food” is also viable.

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶matna “food” ✧ EtyAC/MAT
    • ᴹ√MAT “eat” ✧ EtyAC/MAT

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ✶matna > mann[matna] > [madna] > [manna] > [mann]✧ EtyAC/MAT
Noldorin [EtyAC/MAT] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mad-

verb. to eat

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. mat- “to eat” ✧ Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT
  • ᴹT. mat- “to eat”

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAT “eat” ✧ Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT

Element in

  • N. megli “bear, (lit.) honey-eater”

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√MAT > medi[mat-] > [mad-]✧ Ety/MAT
ᴹ√MAT > mad-[mat-] > [mad-]✧ EtyAC/MAT
Noldorin [Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT; PE17/044] Group: Eldamo. Published by

aes

noun. cooked food, meat

Noldorin [Ety/349] Group: SINDICT. Published by

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Qenya 

mat-

verb. to eat

Cognates

  • N. mad- “to eat” ✧ Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT
  • ᴹT. mat- “to eat”

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAT “eat” ✧ Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT; PE22/102

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴹ√MAT > mat-[mat-]✧ Ety/MAT
ᴹ√MAT > mat-[mat-]✧ EtyAC/MAT
Qenya [Ety/MAT; EtyAC/MAT; PE22/099; PE22/100; PE22/102; PE22/104; PE22/105; PE22/106; PE22/107; PE22/108; PE22/109; PE22/119; PE22/120; PE22/127; VT48/32] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Primitive Elvish

matna

noun. food

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAT “eat” ✧ EtyAC/MAT

Derivatives

  • N. mann “food” ✧ EtyAC/MAT
Middle Primitive Elvish [EtyAC/MAT] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mat-

verb. to eat

Derivations

  • ᴹ√MAT “eat”

Derivatives

  • ᴹT. mat- “to eat”

Element in

  • ᴹ✶ōmata- “to eat away, devour, corrode”
  • ᴹ✶e mati-te “he eats him(self)” ✧ PE22/095
  • ᴹ✶e mati-the “he eats him (another man)” ✧ PE22/095; PE22/095
  • ᴹ✶ke mati-te “thou eatest it” ✧ PE22/095
  • ᴹ✶ni mati-te “I eat it (him/her)” ✧ PE22/095
  • ᴹ✶ni mati-te mati-the “I eat it and that” ✧ PE22/095; PE22/095; PE22/095; PE22/095
  • ᴹ✶ni matite yu the “I eat it and that” ✧ PE22/095
Middle Primitive Elvish [PE22/093; PE22/095; PE22/096] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Middle Telerin

mat-

verb. to eat

Cognates

  • ᴹQ. mat- “to eat”
  • N. mad- “to eat”

Derivations

  • ᴹ✶mat- “to eat”
    • ᴹ√MAT “eat”
Middle Telerin [PE22/095] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Gnomish

mad-

verb. to eat

Cognates

Derivations

  • ᴱ✶mat- “to eat”
    • ᴱ√MATA “eat”

Early Noldorin

math

noun. food

Element in

  • En. orvath “foodless” ✧ PE13/155
Early Noldorin [PE13/155] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mad-

verb. to eat

Element in

Variations

  • mad ✧ PE13/163
Early Noldorin [PE13/127; PE13/128; PE13/129; PE13/131; PE13/132; PE13/163; PE13/164; PE13/165] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Primitive Elvish

mat-

verb. to eat

Derivations

  • ᴱ√MATA “eat”

Derivatives

  • Eq. mata- “to eat” ✧ PE14/058; PE14/070; PE14/070
  • G. mad- “to eat”
Early Primitive Elvish [PE14/058; PE14/070] Group: Eldamo. Published by

Early Quenya

manta

adjective. eaten

An adjective (passive participle?) for “eaten” in Qenya Word-lists of the 1920s (PE16/142), clearly based on ᴱQ. mat- “eat” (PE16/141).

Neo-Quenya: For purposes of Neo-Quenya, I think it is safer to stick to the later passive participle form of the verb: ᴺQ. matina “eaten”.

Elements

WordGloss
mata-“to eat”
Early Quenya [PE16/142] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mata-

verb. to eat

Cognates

  • G. mad- “to eat”

Derivations

  • ᴱ✶mat- “to eat” ✧ PE14/058; PE14/070; PE14/070
    • ᴱ√MATA “eat”
  • ᴱ√MATA “eat” ✧ QL/059

Element in

  • Eq. ha·matsir “one eats it, it is eaten” ✧ PE14/056; PE14/085
  • Eq. hi·mante “she ate” ✧ PE14/085
  • Eq. hu·mate “he eats” ✧ PE14/085
  • Eq. matsima “edible” ✧ QL/059
  • Eq. manta “eaten”
  • Eq. matsile “bear”
  • Eq. matso “food” ✧ PE16/141
  • Eq. -matwa “*-eating”
  • Eq. kamanta- “to make eat, give to eat” ✧ QL/043

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ✶mat- > mansie[mantiē] > [mantie] > [mantsie] > [mansie]✧ PE14/058
ᴱ✶mat- > mantye[mantjē] > [mantje]✧ PE14/058
ᴱ✶matī > matsi[matī] > [mati] > [matsi]✧ PE14/070
ᴱ✶mati > mate[mati] > [mate]✧ PE14/070
ᴱ√MATA > mat-[mat-]✧ QL/059

Variations

  • mat- ✧ PE14/028; PE14/057; PE16/141; QL/059
  • máta- ✧ QL/043
Early Quenya [PE12/026; PE14/023; PE14/028; PE14/034; PE14/056; PE14/057; PE14/058; PE14/059; PE14/070; PE14/085; PE16/141; QL/043; QL/059] Group: Eldamo. Published by

mat-

verb. to eat

matl

noun. food

Cognates

  • G. madri “food, edibles; a meal”

Derivations

  • ᴱ√MATA “eat” ✧ QL/059

Element in

Phonetic Developments

DevelopmentStagesSources
ᴱ√MATA > matl[matlǝ] > [matl] > [matḷ] > [matḷ]✧ QL/059
Early Quenya [QL/059] Group: Eldamo. Published by

matso

noun. food

Changes

  • mastamatso “food” ✧ PE16/141

Variations

  • masta ✧ PE16/141 (masta)
Early Quenya [PE16/141] Group: Eldamo. Published by